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From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Mailing lists and news archiving
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:09:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yl3d1k6xiz.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lmfc8qem.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> ((Chris Beggy ) news@kippona.com's message of "Sat, 05 Jan 2002 16:00:01 -0500")

Chris Beggy <news@kippona.com> writes:

> I'm happy to peer for feeds, but I need to have an estimate of the rate
> of archive growth before I commit to /no expiry/ on those groups.

I'd also be happy to peer for feeds, and I can give some pointers on how
to send control messages and the like.

> Maybe Russ or somebody with deja-news.com experience can shed light on
> these issues.

Here are some things to think about:

 * Spammers troll Usenet for addresses aggressively, perhaps more so than
   with the web and definitely more than with mailing lists.  It's quite
   possible that when a mailing list is gated to Usenet, the spam load of
   the participants will increase.  At least, some people will worry about
   that and complain.

 * Most mailing lists actually are gated out there somewhere in some
   poorly distributed hierarchy.  There really needs to be some sort of
   central, organized hierarchy for gating mailing lists, but in the
   interim you can't really get away with using the mailing list message
   IDs since invariably you'll collide with some other gateway and you'll
   only see some of the messages.  That means assigning new message IDs
   to each message as you gate it, and that means rewriting References so
   that threading still works.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-06  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-05 19:36 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-05 19:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-05 21:00 ` news
2002-01-05 21:06   ` news
2002-01-05 21:36   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-05 22:12     ` news
2002-01-06  7:13       ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-06  8:57       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 14:13     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-19 20:01       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-20 17:27         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-20 17:34           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-20 17:38             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-20 17:55               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-20 21:33                 ` Björn Torkelsson
2002-01-20 21:37                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-22  1:23                 ` Steve Youngs
2002-01-22  1:37                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-22  2:23                     ` Steve Youngs
2002-01-20 20:48               ` Steve Youngs
2002-01-20 17:35           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-06  2:09   ` Russ Allbery [this message]
2002-01-06  9:07     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-08 12:52     ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-09  3:06       ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-09 10:55         ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-09 11:45           ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-19 20:04             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-20  5:06               ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-01-05 22:47 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-06  9:05   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06  9:52     ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-06 10:10       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 10:23         ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-06 10:24         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 10:40           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 10:49             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 11:25               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 14:51                 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-07 11:49                 ` Colin Marquardt
2002-01-07 12:06                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-07 18:13                     ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-07 19:38                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-08  9:06                         ` Colin Marquardt
2002-01-06 12:42               ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-06  6:58 ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-06  9:13   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-06 13:14     ` Frank Schmitt
2002-01-06 14:01 ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-06 15:38 ` Martin Thornquist
2002-01-07  7:58   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-07  8:46     ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-08 10:31 ` Fabien Penso

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