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From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
Subject: Re: Gnus always loads cl
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:11:17 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yotl3cr6mvmi.fsf@jpl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k7kjwlik.fsf@crybaby.cs.uni-dortmund.de>

>>>>> In <87k7kjwlik.fsf@crybaby.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
>>>>>	Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

Kai> Well.  Hm.  How to make it prettier?  Maybe this one:

Kai> (when (memq nil (mapcar 'fboundp
Kai>                         '(gethash hash-table make-hash-table
Kai>                           mapc puthash)))
Kai>   (require 'cl)
Kai>   (unless (fboundp 'puthash)
Kai>     (defalias 'puthash 'cl-puthash)))

That's more smart.  I'll use it.  Thanks.

[...]

Kai> As a zero-th approximation, any function that is not fboundp in Emacs
Kai> 20 will do.  Maybe make-hash-table is the most basic function.
Kai> (Without a hash table, you cannot do anything with it, so any Emacs
Kai> which provides hash tables will also provide make-hash-table, I
Kai> guess.)

The built-in function make-hash-table has appeared in Emacs 21.1.
Emacs 18 didn't provide it.  cl-extra.el provided it till Emacs
20.  I had been knowing `(make-vector 2^N-1 0)' for some time,
on the one hand.

By the way, I found the past things.  In Gnus 5.3 which is
bundled with Emacs 19.34, gnus-gl.el uses make-hash-table.
gnus-gl.el and nnml.el require cl in the toplevel. ;-)

>> By the way, I've made gnus-clfns.el in T-gnus...
>>                                              ...That file
>> provides compiler macros for cl run-time functions as it is done
>> by dgnushack.el in Oort Gnus.  If such demand increases, we
>> should probably do the same thing also in Oort Gnus.

Kai> Whee.  dgnushack is really weird.  But if it's necessary...

Developers who don't have Emacs 20 will increase from now on.
We probably have to decide some time.  It might be now...
-- 
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>



  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-16 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-08 11:24 Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-10-10 11:12 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-10-14  9:15   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-10-14 19:24     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-14 22:46       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-10-15  6:41         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-15  9:29           ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-10-15 13:54             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-15 15:46               ` Katsumi
2002-10-15 19:27                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-16 12:11                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka [this message]
2002-10-15 21:34             ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-29  0:18     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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