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From: Kevin Carhart <kevin@carhart.net>
To: Karl Dahlke <eklhad@comcast.net>
Cc: Edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com
Subject: [Edbrowse-dev] nextSibling and previousSibling
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 12:45:04 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.03.1612271228310.15985@carhart.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161127151106.eklhad@comcast.net>



Hi Karl

I remember you mentioning NASA, so I will try to solve it.

Hang on, here is a very concrete idea!  I know we need nextSibling and 
previousSibling.  Does anyone want to take them, and if not, I'm going to 
make an artificial deadline that I'm going to try to get nextSibling and 
previousSibling out by the end of Wednesday!  Then I will feel as though I 
haven't bunted.

We just have to grab bits like this.  I think 
implementing types of manipulations may be superior to starting with a 
site, because if you implement three manipulations, go back to the site 
and it magically works, you have fixed a root cause with broad 
implications and have not needed to care about a NASA developer's *own* 
middle layer of business logic and variables and style quirks, which 
takes time of its own and learning *that* stuff does not extrapolate at 
all.  So that would be my argument for favoring the spec down - it could 
save a lot of time.  Though just like I said above, I'm sure it's a back 
and forth, and you're trying to loosen up a logjam by two different 
means, poke over here with a case, prod over there with a DOM concept. 
Once it's done it's done.

Sibling code in the next 48 hours, or bust!

Kevin




On Tue, 27 Dec 2016, Karl Dahlke wrote:

> Implementing the spec is valuable, or at the very least reading the spec,
> so that the piece you decide to implement, you're implementing it right!
> But I do believe, with the above caveat, that find&fix is the biggest bang for the buck, and we don't have a lot of resources here, so on we go.
> (I sometimes wonder how many fulltime programmers maintain chrome or edge or whatever.)
>
> I think we need to amass a list of sites that people want, that just don't work.
> That's a market driven approach.
> Kevin is already doing that; he has 2 or 3 that people have asked about,
> that he is looking into.
> My latest pet pieve is an entire domain, nasa.gov.
> I'm a big space fan, and I love to read the articles,
> but every page comes up blank, with or without js.
> Didn't use to; the site use to be very accessible.
> Not any more.
> That's the problem with edbrowse, if you're not swimming forward you're falling behind.
> I also can't listen to nasa tv with realplayer, though I could before.
> That's another story.
> Anyways, Kevin, you might add nasa.gov to the list of desirable and unworkable pages.
>
> Karl Dahlke
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-27 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-29 16:03 [Edbrowse-dev] $ object in javascript Karl Dahlke
2016-11-29 16:24 ` Chris Brannon
2016-11-30  0:47 ` Kevin Carhart
2016-11-30  7:30   ` Karl Dahlke
2016-11-30  7:43     ` Tyler Spivey
2016-11-30  7:54       ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-01  0:04         ` Kevin Carhart
2016-12-01  1:17           ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-25 13:06             ` Adam Thompson
2016-12-26 14:52               ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-27  3:04                 ` Kevin Carhart
2016-12-27  3:49                   ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-27  4:17                     ` Kevin Carhart
2016-12-27  4:38                       ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-27 18:37                         ` Adam Thompson
2016-12-27  4:59                       ` Chris Brannon
2016-12-27  6:53                         ` Kevin Carhart
2016-12-27 15:21                           ` Chris Brannon
2016-12-27 20:13                             ` Kevin Carhart
2016-12-27 13:26                         ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-27 15:47                           ` Chris Brannon
2016-12-27 18:48                             ` Adam Thompson
2016-12-27 20:23                               ` Chris Brannon
2016-12-28 11:42                                 ` [Edbrowse-dev] Edbrowse in NetBSD Adam Thompson
2016-12-28 11:50                                   ` Chris Brannon
2016-12-28 12:15                                     ` Adam Thompson
2016-12-27 19:11                   ` [Edbrowse-dev] $ object in javascript Adam Thompson
2016-12-27 19:47                     ` Kevin Carhart
2016-12-27 20:11                       ` Karl Dahlke
2016-12-27 20:45                         ` Kevin Carhart [this message]
2016-12-27 21:14                           ` [Edbrowse-dev] nextSibling and previousSibling Chris Brannon
2016-12-28 11:38                       ` [Edbrowse-dev] $ object in javascript Adam Thompson

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