From: "Martín Hötzel Escardó" <"escardo..."@gmail.com>
To: Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Vladimir Voevodsky
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
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On Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:24:26 UTC+1, Daniel R. Grayson wrote:
>
> PS: it is the oldest email I have from him with the word "univalent" or
> "univalence" in it.
>
In the vein of bringing to public record things that Vladimir said, here
is a short interview.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: historical question
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:08:14 -0400
From: Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu>
To: Martin Escardo <m.es...@cs.bham.ac.uk>
CC: Prof. Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu>
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Martin Escardo <m.es...@cs.bham.ac.uk>
wrote:
>
> Hi Vladimir,
>
> (0) When did you formulate hlevels in type theory?
Probably in early 2010
> (1) When did you formulate the univalence axiom?
Originally in 2005 as a property of morphisms (fibrations). In late 2009 as
a formula in type theory.
>
> (And when did you give your model for it?)
In a sense in 2006, only I did not know how to model the Martin-Lof
identity types and thought that different identity types will need to be
introduced that will satisfy univalence but what other properties to
require from them I did not know.
>
> (2) When did you prove that univalence implies function extensionality?
July 2010.
>
> I am giving a talk next week trying to rigorously explain the univalence
> axiom to classical mathematicians. This will involve, of course, trying
> to first explain Martin-Loef type theory, particularly the identity type.
>
> One thing between you and Martin-Loef is Hofmann-Streicher's groupoid
> model, in which they have a proto-form of univalence. Were you inspired
> by that, or were your thoughts independent of that?
I was not inspired by it. In fact I tried several times to understand what
they are saying and never could.
>
> (Also: what was your first reaction when you saw the identity type for
> the first time? Did you immediately connect it with path spaces?)
Not at all. I did not make this connection until late 2009. All the time
before it I was hypnotized by the mantra that the only inhabitant of the Id
type is reflexivity which made then useless from my point of view.
Vladimir.
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-01 4:25 Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-01 4:54 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-01 8:07 ` [HoTT] " Thomas Streicher
2017-10-01 13:18 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2017-10-01 15:06 ` Joyal, André
2017-10-01 14:48 ` [HoTT] " Steve Awodey
2017-10-01 17:08 ` Andrei Rodin
2017-10-01 20:06 ` [HoTT] " Nicolai Kraus
2017-10-01 20:08 ` Chris Kapulkin
2017-10-02 13:20 ` Marcelo Fiore
2017-10-02 14:00 ` Andrew Polonsky
2017-10-02 15:22 ` [HoTT] " Andrej Bauer
2017-10-04 22:52 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-10-05 4:52 ` [HoTT] " Gershom B
2017-10-05 6:08 ` Timothy Carstens
2017-10-05 10:41 ` [HoTT] " Thierry Coquand
2017-10-05 13:38 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-06 5:41 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2017-10-11 15:26 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-11 17:47 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-11 19:06 ` [HoTT] " Steve Awodey
2017-10-12 19:06 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-12 19:24 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-12 21:55 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó [this message]
2017-10-12 22:21 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2017-10-14 21:12 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-10-14 21:20 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
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