From: Steve Awodey <steve...@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel R. Grayson" <danielrich...@gmail.com>
Cc: Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Vladimir Voevodsky
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:06:36 -0400 [thread overview]
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thanks for posting this Dan.
It’s very interesting to learn the background of the discovery of univalence.
Steve
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Daniel R. Grayson <danielrich...@gmail.com <mailto:danielrich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homotopy_type_theory <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homotopy_type_theory> Voevodsky says this:
>
> "Also in 2009, Voevodsky worked out more of the details of a model of type
> theory in Kan complexes, and observed that the existence of a universal Kan
> fibration could be used to resolve the coherence problems for categorical
> models of type theory. He also proved, using an idea of A. K. Bousfield, that
> this universal fibration was univalent: the associated fibration of pairwise
> homotopy equivalences between the fibers is equivalent to the paths-space
> fibration of the base."
>
> When I asked him about that, he showed me the email from Bousfield,
> answering Vladimir's question as forwarded by Peter May, containing
> a very nice description of the idea, and here it is:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 10:10:30 CDT
> To: Peter May <m...@math.uchicago.edu <mailto:m...@math.uchicago.edu>>
> cc: jar...@uwo.ca <mailto:jar...@uwo.ca>, pgo...@math.northwestern.edu <mailto:pgo...@math.northwestern.edu>
> From: "A. Bousfield" <bo...@uic.edu <mailto:bo...@uic.edu>>
> Subject: Re: Simplicial question
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> I think that the answer to Voevodsky's basic question is "yes," and I'll
> try to sketch a proof.
>
> Since the Kan complexes X and Y are homotopy equivalent, they share the
> same minimal complex M, and we have trivial fibrations X -> M and Y -> M
> by Quillen's main lemma in "The geometric realization of a Kan fibration
> ." Thus X + Y -> M + M is also a trivial fibration where "+" gives the
> disjoint union. We claim that the composition of X + Y -> M + M with the
> inclusion M + M >-> M x Delta^1 may be factored as the composition of an
> inclusion X + Y >-> E with a trivial fibration E -> M x Delta^1 such that
> the counterimage of M + M is X + Y. We may then obtain the desired
> fibration
>
> E -> M x Delta^1 -> Delta^1
>
> whose fiber over 0 is X and whose fiber over 1 is Y.
>
> We have used a case of:
>
> Claim. The composition of a trivial fibration A -> B with an inclusion B
> -> C may be factored as the composition of an inclusion A >-> E with a
> trivial fibration E -> C such that the counterimage of B is A.
>
> I believe that this claim follows by a version of the usual iterative
> construction of a Quillen factorization for A -> C using the "test"
> cofibrations
> Dot Delta^k >-> Delta^k
> for all k. At each stage, we use maps from the "test" cofibrations
> involving k-simplices of C outside of B.
>
> I hope that this helps -- I haven't thought about Voevodsky's more
> general question.
>
> Best regards,
> Pete
>
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Peter May wrote:
>
> Here is an extract from an email from Voevodsky (vlad...@ias.edu <mailto:vlad...@ias.edu>)
>
> -----------------
>
> Q. Let X and Y be a pair of Kan simplicial sets which are homotopy
> equivalent. Is there a Kan fibration E -> \Delta^1 such that its
> fiber over 0 is X (up to an iso) and its fiber over 1 is Y (up to an
> iso)?
>
> A more advanced version of the same question: let X' -> X and X'' ->
> X be two Kan fibrations which are fiberwise equivalent to each other
> over X. Is there a kan fibration over X\times\Delta^1 whose fiber
> over X\times 0 is isomorphic to X', fiber over X\times 1 is
> isomorphic to X'' and the homotopy between the two inclusions of X to
> X\times\Delta^1 define the original equivalence (up to homotopy)?
>
> I encountered this issue trying to write up a semantics for dependent
> type systems with values in the homotopy category. which is in turn
> related to the problem of creating computer programs for proof
> verification.
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>
>
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-01 4:25 Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-01 4:54 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-01 8:07 ` [HoTT] " Thomas Streicher
2017-10-01 13:18 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2017-10-01 15:06 ` Joyal, André
2017-10-01 14:48 ` [HoTT] " Steve Awodey
2017-10-01 17:08 ` Andrei Rodin
2017-10-01 20:06 ` [HoTT] " Nicolai Kraus
2017-10-01 20:08 ` Chris Kapulkin
2017-10-02 13:20 ` Marcelo Fiore
2017-10-02 14:00 ` Andrew Polonsky
2017-10-02 15:22 ` [HoTT] " Andrej Bauer
2017-10-04 22:52 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-10-05 4:52 ` [HoTT] " Gershom B
2017-10-05 6:08 ` Timothy Carstens
2017-10-05 10:41 ` [HoTT] " Thierry Coquand
2017-10-05 13:38 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-06 5:41 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2017-10-11 15:26 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-11 17:47 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-11 19:06 ` Steve Awodey [this message]
2017-10-12 19:06 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-12 19:24 ` Daniel R. Grayson
2017-10-12 21:55 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-10-12 22:21 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2017-10-14 21:12 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-10-14 21:20 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
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