From: Kristina Sojakova <sojakova...@gmail.com>
To: HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Impredicative set + function extensionality + proof irrelevance consistent?
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 07:15:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa1334b1-3b24-78d2-a670-25a27cbb186e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1512992534.265543.1200966552.20A0FEC1@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Hi Jon,
Thanks for the answer! In this model, what would be the interpretation
of the eq_A(a,b) : Prop type in Coq, which is logically equivalent to
Id_A(a,b) : Type but proof irrelevant?
Best,
Kristina
On 12/11/2017 6:42 AM, Jon Sterling wrote:
> Can we make sense of this by interpreting into a realizability topos?
>
> In particular, I am under the impression that Eff (the effective topos)
> models an impredicative universe of proof-relevant types, and on the
> other hand its subobject classifier can be used to model a
> proof-irrelevant Prop.
>
> As a topos, Eff models extensional type theory, and thence we have the
> functional extensionality law.
>
> Best,
> Jon
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017, at 08:22 PM, Kristina Sojakova wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I asked this question last year on the coq-club mailing list but did not
>> receive a conclusive answer so I am trying here now. Is the theory with
>> a proof-relevant impredicative universe Set, proof-irrelevant
>> impredicative universe Prop, and function extensionality (known to be)
>> consistent? It is known that the proof-irrelevance of Prop makes the Id
>> type behave differently usual and in particular, makes the theory
>> incompatible with univalence, so it is not just a matter of tacking on
>> an interpretation for Prop.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any insight,
>>
>> Kristina
>>
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-11 4:22 Kristina Sojakova
2017-12-11 11:42 ` [HoTT] " Jon Sterling
2017-12-11 12:15 ` Kristina Sojakova [this message]
2017-12-11 12:43 ` Jon Sterling
2017-12-11 14:28 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-11 14:32 ` Kristina Sojakova
2017-12-11 14:23 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-12 10:15 ` Andrea Vezzosi
2017-12-12 11:03 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-12 12:02 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-12 12:21 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-12 13:17 ` Jon Sterling
2017-12-12 19:29 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-12 19:52 ` Martin Escardo
2017-12-12 23:14 ` Michael Shulman
2017-12-14 12:32 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-14 18:52 ` Michael Shulman
2017-12-16 15:21 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-17 12:55 ` Michael Shulman
2017-12-17 17:08 ` Ben Sherman
2017-12-17 17:16 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-17 22:43 ` Floris van Doorn
2017-12-15 17:00 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-17 8:47 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-17 10:21 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-17 11:39 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-18 7:41 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-18 10:00 ` Michael Shulman
2017-12-18 11:55 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-18 16:24 ` Michael Shulman
2017-12-18 20:08 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-18 10:10 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-18 11:17 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-18 12:09 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-18 11:52 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-19 11:26 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-19 13:52 ` Andrej Bauer
2017-12-19 14:44 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-19 15:31 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-19 16:10 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-19 16:31 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-19 16:37 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-20 11:00 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-20 11:16 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-20 11:41 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-12-21 0:42 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-22 11:18 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2017-12-22 21:20 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-12-22 21:36 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2017-12-23 0:25 ` Matt Oliveri
2017-12-19 16:41 ` Steve Awodey
2017-12-20 0:14 ` Andrej Bauer
2017-12-20 3:55 ` Steve Awodey
[not found] ` <fa8c0c3c-4870-4c06-fd4d-70be992d3ac0@skyskimmer.net>
2017-12-14 13:28 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
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