how to set gnus authinfo file

how to set gnus authinfo file

[Alice Bob]

Emacs 24.5; Gnus 5.13.

I would like to set file path of `~/.authinfo.gpg' which stores nntp,
nnimap, smtp passwords. This is the code snippet:

(setq nnimap-authinfo-file
        (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg")
      smtpmail-auth-credentials
        (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg")
      smtpmail-starttls-credentials
        (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg"))

But this setting does not work.
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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Martin]

  Alice Bob writes:

  > Emacs 24.5; Gnus 5.13.
  >
  > I would like to set file path of `~/.authinfo.gpg' which stores nntp,
  > nnimap, smtp passwords. This is the code snippet:
  >
  > (setq nnimap-authinfo-file
  >         (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg")
..................................................^ ?
  >       smtpmail-auth-credentials
  >         (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg")
..................................................^ ?
  >       smtpmail-starttls-credentials
  >         (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg"))
..................................................^ ?
  >
  > But this setting does not work.

Hi,

in my case just .authinfo.gpg in the home directory makes gnus ask for
the passphrase to decrypt .authinfo.gpg. No seperate configuration
needed.

Martin

Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Alice Bob]

Martin <parozusa@web.de> writes:

>   Alice Bob writes:
>
>   > Emacs 24.5; Gnus 5.13.
>   >
>   > I would like to set file path of `~/.authinfo.gpg' which stores nntp,
>   > nnimap, smtp passwords. This is the code snippet:
>   >
>   > (setq nnimap-authinfo-file
>   >         (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg")
> ..................................................^ ?
>   >       smtpmail-auth-credentials
>   >         (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg")
> ..................................................^ ?
>   >       smtpmail-starttls-credentials
>   >         (nnheader-concat gnus-home-directory "authinfo.gpg"))
> ..................................................^ ?
>   >
>   > But this setting does not work.
>
> Hi,
>
> in my case just .authinfo.gpg in the home directory makes gnus ask for
> the passphrase to decrypt .authinfo.gpg. No seperate configuration
> needed.
>
Hi Martin,

I would like to change the default location of .authinfo.gpg
file. For example, put it under ~/.emacs.d/gnus/.authinfo.gpg

I cannot find a way to do this.

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Adam Sjøgren]

You didn't say what version of Gnus / Emacs you use, so your milage may
vary. Anyway:

Alice writes:

> (setq nnimap-authinfo-file

Where did you get this variable name? As far as I can see, it is nowhere
in the Gnus source code.

>       smtpmail-auth-credentials
>       smtpmail-starttls-credentials

Where did you find these variable names? I can't see them in
smptmail.el.

To me it looks like auth-sources is the variable to look at:

,----[ C-h v auth-sources RET ]
| auth-sources is a variable defined in `auth-source.el'.
| Its value is ("~/.authinfo" "~/.authinfo.gpg" "~/.netrc")
| 
| Documentation:
| List of authentication sources.
| Each entry is the authentication type with optional properties.
| Entries are tried in the order in which they appear.
| See Info node `(auth)Help for users' for details.
| 
| If an entry names a file with the ".gpg" extension and you have
| EPA/EPG set up, the file will be encrypted and decrypted
| automatically.  See Info node `(epa)Encrypting/decrypting gpg files'
| for details.
| 
| It's best to customize this with `M-x customize-variable' because the choices
| can get pretty complex.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
| 
| This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
| version 24.1 of Emacs.
`----

Have you tried changing that?


  Best regards,

    Adam


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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Adam Sjøgren]

Adam writes:

> You didn't say what version of Gnus / Emacs you use, so your milage may
> vary. Anyway:

You did, I just can't read. Sorry about that. I think my answer is spot
on then:

> To me it looks like auth-sources is the variable to look at:


Sorry again for not reading the very first line of your post.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Emanuel Berg]

Alice Bob <alicebob@riseup.net> writes:

> I would like to change the default location
> of .authinfo.gpg file. For example, put it
> under ~/.emacs.d/gnus/.authinfo.gpg
>
> I cannot find a way to do this.

Try

    M-x apropos-value RET authinfo RET

It seems `auth-sources' is what you seek.

From the help: "Entries are tried in the order
in which they appear."

But - why move it from the home dir? What is
the gain in that?

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Eric Abrahamsen]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> You didn't say what version of Gnus / Emacs you use, so your milage may
> vary. Anyway:
>
> Alice writes:
>
>> (setq nnimap-authinfo-file
>
> Where did you get this variable name? As far as I can see, it is nowhere
> in the Gnus source code.

There is a nntp-authinfo-file, though. I still think you're right that
setting auth-sources is the way to go, but there is also this.

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Alice Bob]

Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:

> Alice Bob <alicebob@riseup.net> writes:
>
>> I would like to change the default location
>> of .authinfo.gpg file. For example, put it
>> under ~/.emacs.d/gnus/.authinfo.gpg
>>
>> I cannot find a way to do this.
>
> Try
>
>     M-x apropos-value RET authinfo RET
>
> It seems `auth-sources' is what you seek.
Yeah, I have now changed to `auth-sources' instead of `nnimap-authinfo-file'.
>
>>From the help: "Entries are tried in the order
> in which they appear."
>
> But - why move it from the home dir? What is
> the gain in that?

Ha, this is my idead: since `authinfo.gpg' is only for Gnus mail
authentication, why not put it under emacs directory? File under
home (~/.authinfo.gpg) should be used for the whole user
account. Is this reasonable?

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Alice Bob]

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asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj0‹3gren) writes:

>> (setq nnimap-authinfo-file
>
> Where did you get this variable name? As far as I can see, it is nowhere
> in the Gnus source code.
This variable will be released in next version of Gnus.

>>       smtpmail-auth-credentials
>>       smtpmail-starttls-credentials
>
> Where did you find these variable names? I can't see them in
> smptmail.el.
There variables were used prior to Emacs 24.1 and deprecated
>
> To me it looks like auth-sources is the variable to look at:
Got it. I am using `auth-sources' now.
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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Adam Sjøgren]

Alice writes:

> Ha, this is my idead: since `authinfo.gpg' is only for Gnus mail
> authentication, why not put it under emacs directory? File under
> home (~/.authinfo.gpg) should be used for the whole user
> account. Is this reasonable?

Do any other programs use ~/.authinfo.gpg?


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Alice Bob]

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asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj0‹3gren) writes:

> Alice writes:
>
>> Ha, this is my idead: since `authinfo.gpg' is only for Gnus mail
>> authentication, why not put it under emacs directory? File under
>> home (~/.authinfo.gpg) should be used for the whole user
>> account. Is this reasonable?
>
> Do any other programs use ~/.authinfo.gpg?
I am not sure yet. AFAIS, only Emacs/Gnus use ~/.authinfo.gpg (by default).
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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Tassilo Horn]

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

>> Ha, this is my idead: since `authinfo.gpg' is only for Gnus mail
>> authentication, why not put it under emacs directory? File under
>> home (~/.authinfo.gpg) should be used for the whole user
>> account. Is this reasonable?
>
> Do any other programs use ~/.authinfo.gpg?

I think so.

,----[ (info "(auth)Overview") ]
| The auth-source library is simply a way for Emacs and Gnus, among
|                                                             ^^^^^
| others, to answer the old burning question “What are my user name and
| ^^^^^^
| password?”
`----

And looking at my ~/.authinfo.gpg, I have at least two entries which are
not mail servers although I cannot remember why I've put them there.
One of them is the old Gnus git repository, so maybe Magit/VC are able
to read credentials there when pushing?

Bye,
Tassilo


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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 10:17:50 +0200 Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org> wrote: 

TH> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>>> Ha, this is my idead: since `authinfo.gpg' is only for Gnus mail
>>> authentication, why not put it under emacs directory? File under
>>> home (~/.authinfo.gpg) should be used for the whole user
>>> account. Is this reasonable?
>> 
>> Do any other programs use ~/.authinfo.gpg?

TH> I think so.

TH> ,----[ (info "(auth)Overview") ]
TH> | The auth-source library is simply a way for Emacs and Gnus, among
TH> |                                                             ^^^^^
TH> | others, to answer the old burning question “What are my user name and
TH> | ^^^^^^
TH> | password?”
TH> `----

TH> And looking at my ~/.authinfo.gpg, I have at least two entries which are
TH> not mail servers although I cannot remember why I've put them there.
TH> One of them is the old Gnus git repository, so maybe Magit/VC are able
TH> to read credentials there when pushing?

Outside Emacs, I wrote a credentials plugin for Git that uses it:
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/git/git.git/tree/contrib/credential/netrc

Ted

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Bill White]

On Sun Jul 03 2016 at 07:47, Alice Bob <alicebob@riseup.net> wrote:

> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>
>> Alice writes:
>>
>>> Ha, this is my idead: since `authinfo.gpg' is only for Gnus mail
>>> authentication, why not put it under emacs directory? File under
>>> home (~/.authinfo.gpg) should be used for the whole user
>>> account. Is this reasonable?
>>
>> Do any other programs use ~/.authinfo.gpg?

> I am not sure yet. AFAIS, only Emacs/Gnus use ~/.authinfo.gpg (by default).

tramp and org-jira do.  if i use one of them first thing in a fresh
emacs, i'm prompted to decrypt ~/.authinfo.gpg.  and i recently wrote a
mathematica shell script that had to access an internal web server with
authentication, so i wrote a little authinfo parser for it to avoid
storing my password in the code.

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Re: how to set gnus authinfo file

[Adam Sjøgren]

Bill writes:

> On Sun Jul 03 2016 at 07:47, Alice Bob <alicebob@riseup.net> wrote:

>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

>>> Do any other programs use ~/.authinfo.gpg?

>> I am not sure yet. AFAIS, only Emacs/Gnus use ~/.authinfo.gpg (by default).

> tramp and org-jira do.  if i use one of them first thing in a fresh
> emacs, i'm prompted to decrypt ~/.authinfo.gpg.  and i recently wrote a
> mathematica shell script that had to access an internal web server with
> authentication, so i wrote a little authinfo parser for it to avoid
> storing my password in the code.

Cool that more and more programs use it!

This is one of the times that I am unequivocally happy to be wrong, and
corrected.


  Thanks!

    /A

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