nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

[Gijs Hillenius]

the first lines of my:

(setq nnimap-split-fancy
      '(| 
	("subject" "\\(persbericht\\|press release\\|media alert\\)"
      "INBOX.pressreleases")

this rule works, mostly.

But now there are two messages in the INBOX that won't split.


✉  [  82: M... M...          ] PRESS RELEASE - Top bla bla
✉  [ 630: D... B...          ] Press release from bla bla

how come? Others from M... M... were split, just 2 days prior.

Is it, perhaps, because another IMAP client (smartphone) saw those
first? But I M-u removed marks from both, restarted Gnus and they're
still in the INBOX.
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Re: nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

[Adam Sjøgren]

Gijs writes:

> the first lines of my:
>
> (setq nnimap-split-fancy
>       '(| 
> 	("subject" "\\(persbericht\\|press release\\|media alert\\)"
>       "INBOX.pressreleases")
>
> this rule works, mostly.
>
> But now there are two messages in the INBOX that won't split.
>
>
> ✉  [  82: M... M...          ] PRESS RELEASE - Top bla bla
> ✉  [ 630: D... B...          ] Press release from bla bla
>
> how come? Others from M... M... were split, just 2 days prior.

What does B q say on those messages? (I.e. does your split rule hit
them?) My first suspicion was upper/lower case...

B t can also be useful.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 12 Feb 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Gijs writes:
>
>> the first lines of my:
>>
>> (setq nnimap-split-fancy
>> '(| 
>> 	("subject" "\\(persbericht\\|press release\\|media alert\\)"
>> "INBOX.pressreleases")
>>
>> this rule works, mostly.
>>
>> But now there are two messages in the INBOX that won't split.
>>
>>
>> ✉  [  82: M... M...          ] PRESS RELEASE - Top bla bla
>> ✉  [ 630: D... B...          ] Press release from bla bla
>>
>> how come? Others from M... M... were split, just 2 days prior.
>
> What does B q say on those messages? (I.e. does your split rule hit
> them?) My first suspicion was upper/lower case...
>
> B t can also be useful.

On both, B q says

This message would go to mail.misc

On both, B t says
(: (lambda nil (car (bbdb/gnus-split-method))))
"mail.misc"

Now, why would bbdb/gnus-split-method kick in? That is the one before
last split... 


Case is ignored, I tested that when I wrote the split rule.

Note, I have a message in the INBOX.pressreleases from the same M.. M..

[M... M....          ] PRESS RELEASE 

And when I

B t there, B t says

("subject" "\\(persbericht\\|press release\\|media alert\\)" "INBOX.pressreleases")
"INBOX.pressreleases"

But thanks, already, for reminding me of B q and B t
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Re: nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

[Gijs Hillenius]

I marked these two incorrectly splitted messages as unread on an Android
phone using K9. Oddly, they do now not show up as unread in Gnus.

In Gnus, I repeat the M-u. The INBOX now shows 2 unread messages. (But
the idea was they'd now be in the INBOX.pressreleases folder).

Something to do with marks set by one client and not the other, I suspect.

Re: nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

[Adam Sjøgren]

Gijs writes:

> Now, why would bbdb/gnus-split-method kick in?

Because the sender is in your bbdb?


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    Adam

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Re: nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 12 Feb 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Gijs writes:
>
>> Now, why would bbdb/gnus-split-method kick in?
>
> Because the sender is in your bbdb?

neither of them are. I should have added that in the earlier messages, sorry

Can Gnus remove its 'Seen' mark? (was: nnimap-split-fancy skips 2 messages)

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 12 Feb 2016, Gijs Hillenius wrote:


> the first lines of my:
>
> (setq nnimap-split-fancy
> '(| 
> 	("subject" "\\(persbericht\\|press release\\|media alert\\)"
> "INBOX.pressreleases")
>
> this rule works, mostly.
>
> But now there are two messages in the INBOX that won't split.
>
>
> ✉  [  82: M... M...          ] PRESS RELEASE - Top bla bla
> ✉  [ 630: D... B...          ] Press release from bla bla
>
> how come? Others from M... M... were split, just 2 days prior.
>
> Is it, perhaps, because another IMAP client (smartphone) saw those
> first? But I M-u removed marks from both, restarted Gnus and they're
> still in the INBOX.

I'm trying to figure out what is wrong, just because. Is there a way to
really reset a message, including removing the Seen mark?


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Re: Can Gnus remove its 'Seen' mark?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Gijs writes:

> Is there a way to really reset a message, including removing the Seen
> mark?

M-u?

(gnus-summary-clear-mark-forward)


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    Adam

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Re: Can Gnus remove its 'Seen' mark?

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 17 Feb 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Gijs writes:
>
>> Is there a way to really reset a message, including removing the Seen
>> mark?
>
> M-u?
>
> (gnus-summary-clear-mark-forward)

thanks :-) but that I've tried.


In my case (Debian, Cyrus) that results in:

✉S [  44: M.... p....     ] Media alert: Na... 

the "✉" designates it's new.

I don't know for sure what the S is for, but I'm assuming it is Seen. Or
else it is something I fubar'd the past few days trying to "clean"
whatever marks this message has.

B r gives me 'void-function nnml-active-number"


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Re: Can Gnus remove its 'Seen' mark?

[Adam Sjøgren]

Gijs writes:

> B r gives me 'void-function nnml-active-number"

Somebody else is seeing that bug as well, it would be great if the
reason could be traced back...


  Best regards,

    Adam

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fixed (was: Can Gnus remove its 'Seen' mark?)

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 17 Feb 2016, Gijs Hillenius wrote:


Splitting works just fine. Adam Sjøgren helped me find out that the
problem was that the mail's subject message was encoded (utf8).

This:

; Decode headers before splitting on them:
(setq nnmail-mail-splitting-decodes t)

solved my problem.

Re: fixed

[Adam Sjøgren]

Gijs writes:

> This:
>
> ; Decode headers before splitting on them:
> (setq nnmail-mail-splitting-decodes t)
>
> solved my problem.

You also had to set some bbdb-related variables and fixed an error in
your split-rules, right?

Please share the insight gained on those as well.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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fixed more (was: fixed)

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 18 Feb 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Gijs writes:
>
>> This:
>>
>> ; Decode headers before splitting on them:
>> (setq nnmail-mail-splitting-decodes t)
>>
>> solved my problem.
>
> You also had to set some bbdb-related variables and fixed an error in
> your split-rules, right?

Yes


The last lines of

(setq nnimap-split-fancy
      '(|
      
      [...]  snipped many lines

        (: (lambda ()
	     (car (bbdb/gnus-split-method))))
	;; Default mailbox
	"INBOX"))


Previously, the final line was:

("INBOX" "")))

Which I had copied years ago from an unknown source.

There are 2 differences, the "", and an extra pair of ().

Having both, B q or B t on unsplitable messages will
return:

message will go to mail.misc

Removing only the "" but keeping the equally superfluous (),

B q / B t will reply

message will go to bogus

Removing both, which, uhm, follows the example in the manual, will get B
q / B t to return

message will go to INBOX

Fixed

[Ross A. Laird]

Well, I have fixed the problem without really knowing what caused it. I
shut down gnus and emacs, deleted everything in ~/gnus, and started up
again. Now everything works as expected (so far).

Ross
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