* using a smtp server (not sendmail)
@ 2007-05-10 20:37 Uri Guttman
2007-05-11 10:55 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
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From: Uri Guttman @ 2007-05-10 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
is there any way to get emacs/gnus to use my isp's smtp server directly?
from what i can find it uses /usr/xxx/sendmail (which in my case is
provided by qmail). my problem really is that verizon fios outbound smtp
required authentication and qmail doesn't support that without a
patch. since outbound isn't an issue (i do use qmail for inbound just
fine) i thought i could bypass it inside emacs/gnus. only a few symbols
are found with smtp in them.
thanx,
uri
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-10 20:37 using a smtp server (not sendmail) Uri Guttman
@ 2007-05-11 10:55 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
2007-05-11 10:58 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
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From: Gernot Hassenpflug @ 2007-05-11 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> writes:
> is there any way to get emacs/gnus to use my isp's smtp server directly?
> from what i can find it uses /usr/xxx/sendmail (which in my case is
> provided by qmail). my problem really is that verizon fios outbound smtp
> required authentication and qmail doesn't support that without a
> patch. since outbound isn't an issue (i do use qmail for inbound just
> fine) i thought i could bypass it inside emacs/gnus. only a few symbols
> are found with smtp in them.
Hi, from what I gather, gnus uses either sendmail, or an smtp.el
package to do the job itself.
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-10 20:37 using a smtp server (not sendmail) Uri Guttman
2007-05-11 10:55 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
@ 2007-05-11 10:58 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
2007-05-11 16:02 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-05-12 15:12 ` Dieter Kluenter
3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Gernot Hassenpflug @ 2007-05-11 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> writes:
> is there any way to get emacs/gnus to use my isp's smtp server directly?
> from what i can find it uses /usr/xxx/sendmail (which in my case is
> provided by qmail). my problem really is that verizon fios outbound smtp
> required authentication and qmail doesn't support that without a
> patch. since outbound isn't an issue (i do use qmail for inbound just
> fine) i thought i could bypass it inside emacs/gnus. only a few symbols
> are found with smtp in them.
gnus is a MUA, with MTA ability added with something like
smtp.el. It's not as featureful and powerful as the sendmail program
of course.
If you put a simple MTA on your machine (nullmailer,
esmtp,ssmtp,nbsmtp, or configure exim4 or postfix to act as satellite
MTAs) you'll probably have a better time of it. That MTA also receives
the mail for you if you have local delivery. AFAIK gnus cannot deliver
mail to you, but needs a backend (calling fetchmail, for instance).
HTH
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-10 20:37 using a smtp server (not sendmail) Uri Guttman
2007-05-11 10:55 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
2007-05-11 10:58 ` Gernot Hassenpflug
@ 2007-05-11 16:02 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-05-11 22:00 ` Reiner Steib
2007-05-12 15:12 ` Dieter Kluenter
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-05-11 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> writes:
Hi Uri,
> is there any way to get emacs/gnus to use my isp's smtp server
> directly?
Sure, it's Gnus!
That's what I use. Adapt it too your needs.
,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
| (require 'smtpmail)
| (setq send-mail-with-sendmail nil
| send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
| message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
| smtpmail-smtp-server "my.isp-smtp.invalid")
`----
Bye,
Tassilo
--
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calls everything around you.
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-11 16:02 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-05-11 22:00 ` Reiner Steib
2007-05-12 10:26 ` Tassilo Horn
[not found] ` <mailman.554.1178966255.32220.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-05-11 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Fri, May 11 2007, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> | (setq send-mail-with-sendmail nil
I can't find this variable in Emacs 22.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-11 22:00 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-05-12 10:26 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-05-12 12:22 ` Reiner Steib
[not found] ` <mailman.554.1178966255.32220.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-05-12 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
Hi Reiner,
>> | (setq send-mail-with-sendmail nil
>
> I can't find this variable in Emacs 22.
And I don't, too. Maybe it's a relict of older emacsen or gnusae, or
simply a product of my mind. ;-)
Bye,
Tassilo
--
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-12 10:26 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-05-12 12:22 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-05-12 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Sat, May 12 2007, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>>> | (setq send-mail-with-sendmail nil
>>
>> I can't find this variable in Emacs 22.
>
> And I don't, too. Maybe it's a relict of older emacsen or gnusae,
cvs-HEAD/emacs/lisp$ grep "[^-]send-mail-with-sendmail" ChangeLog* */ChangeLog*
[no output]
No/lisp$ grep "[^-]send-mail-with-sendmail" ChangeLog*
[no output]
> or simply a product of my mind. ;-)
:-) Or some nonsense Webpage.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
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@ 2007-05-12 15:04 ` Dieter Kluenter
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From: Dieter Kluenter @ 2007-05-12 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>
> Hi Reiner,
>
>>> | (setq send-mail-with-sendmail nil
>>
>> I can't find this variable in Emacs 22.
>
> And I don't, too. Maybe it's a relict of older emacsen or gnusae, or
> simply a product of my mind. ;-)
It is an XEmacs function
,----[ f1 v sendmail-send-it RET ]
| `sendmail-send-it' is a compiled Lisp function
| -- loaded from "sendmail"
| (sendmail-send-it)
|
| Documentation:
| Send the current mail buffer using the Sendmail package.
| This is a suitable value for `send-mail-function'. It sends using the
| external program defined by `sendmail-program'.
`----
-Dieter
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http://www.dkluenter.de
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* Re: using a smtp server (not sendmail)
2007-05-10 20:37 using a smtp server (not sendmail) Uri Guttman
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2007-05-11 16:02 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2007-05-12 15:12 ` Dieter Kluenter
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From: Dieter Kluenter @ 2007-05-12 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> writes:
> is there any way to get emacs/gnus to use my isp's smtp server directly?
> from what i can find it uses /usr/xxx/sendmail (which in my case is
> provided by qmail). my problem really is that verizon fios outbound smtp
> required authentication and qmail doesn't support that without a
> patch. since outbound isn't an issue (i do use qmail for inbound just
> fine) i thought i could bypass it inside emacs/gnus. only a few symbols
> are found with smtp in them.
from my ~/.xemacs/custom.el
,----[ custom.el ]
| '(message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
| '(smtp-default-server "\"my.smtp.host\"")
| '(ssl-certificate-directory "/home/dieter/certs")
| '(ssl-certificate-verification-policy 1)
| '(tls-process-connection-type t)
`----
from my ~/.authinfo
,----[ authinfo ]
| machine "my.smtp.host" login "my.identity" password "my.passwd"
`----
-Dieter
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http://www.dkluenter.de
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