Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Torben Knudsen]

Help on the following would be nice.

I have gnus working on a Sun machine but i can't get it to send from a
PC with Ubuntu.  I can read groups and sending takes a long time but
no error messages pops up.  However, nothing seems to be send.  I
attach my .gnus and what came in the *Message* buffer.

[2. Gnus ini file --- application/octet-stream; .gnus]...

[3. From the *Message* buffer --- text/plain; MessagesGnusStart.txt]...


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Associate Prof. Ph.D Torben Knudsen	Phone	: (+45) 9635 8670
Section of Automation and Control,	Email	: tk@es.aau.dk
Department of Electronic Systems,
Aalborg University 
Fredrik Bajersvej 7 
DK-9220 Aalborg Ø
Denmark 

Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Tassilo Horn]

Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes:

Hi Torben,

> [2. Gnus ini file --- application/octet-stream; .gnus]...
>
> [3. From the *Message* buffer --- text/plain; MessagesGnusStart.txt]...

That's only plain text, not the files. ;-)

Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Torben Knudsen]

smtp server is what I should make gnus use for sending I am told by
some colleagues.  

Is that right?

How do I do that? I think gnus insist on using sendmail!
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Associate Prof. Ph.D Torben Knudsen	Phone	: (+45) 9635 8670
Section of Automation and Control,	Email	: tk@es.aau.dk
Department of Electronic Systems,
Aalborg University 
Fredrik Bajersvej 7 
DK-9220 Aalborg Ø
Denmark 

Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Jeff Bopp]

Put in your .gnus.el the following.

     (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
     (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
     (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.yourserver.whatever")

Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Tassilo Horn]

Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes:

Hi Torben,

> How do I do that? I think gnus insist on using sendmail!

You can use sendmail or any smtp server with smtpmail.el, which comes
with emacs/gnus. Maybe you need a more up-to-date version. Here's my
config for it.

,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
| (require 'smtpmail)
| (setq send-mail-with-sendmail nil)
| (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
| (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
| (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.messagingengine.com")
`----

Regards,
Tassilo
-- 
[Emacs] is written in Lisp, which is the only computer language that is
beautiful.  -- Neal Stephenson, _In the Beginning was the Command Line_

Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Torben Knudsen]

>>>>> "Tassilo" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

Tassilo> Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes: Hi Torben,

>> How do I do that? I think gnus insist on using sendmail!

Tassilo> You can use sendmail or any smtp server with smtpmail.el,
Tassilo> which comes with emacs/gnus. Maybe you need a more up-to-date
Tassilo> version. Here's my config for it.

Tassilo> ,----[ ~/.gnus.el ] | (require 'smtpmail) | (setq
Tassilo> send-mail-with-sendmail nil) | (setq send-mail-function
Tassilo> 'smtpmail-send-it) | (setq message-send-mail-function
Tassilo> 'smtpmail-send-it) | (setq smtpmail-smtp-server
Tassilo> "mail.messagingengine.com") `----

That fixed my sending problem.  However I have a additional qestion: 
I remember last I used gnus two years ago I save the mails i needed by
moving them to groups by names like "nnimap+AUC:ARC.private".  I find
this a bit strange and I can't figure out how to move these files to a
subdirectory so they all clutter my root directory.

Is the above the only way to store mail?
Is the above the best way to store mail?
If yes how can I use a subdirestory for these "nnimap+AUC:ARC." files?

I find it quit difficult to read and understand the info/manual.

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Associate Prof. Ph.D Torben Knudsen	Phone	: (+45) 9635 8670
Section of Automation and Control,	Email	: tk@es.aau.dk
Department of Electronic Systems,
Aalborg University 
Fredrik Bajersvej 7 
DK-9220 Aalborg Ø
Denmark 

Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Tassilo Horn]

Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes:

Hi Torben,

> I remember last I used gnus two years ago I save the mails i needed by
> moving them to groups by names like "nnimap+AUC:ARC.private".  I find
> this a bit strange and I can't figure out how to move these files to a
> subdirectory so they all clutter my root directory.

You want to split incoming mail into different groups, if I get you
right. Well, then it depends on how you fetch the incoming mail: If you
fetch it with POP3 or from the local spool (anything set in
`mail-sources'), see

,----[ (info "(gnus)Splitting Mail") ]
| The `nnmail-split-methods' variable says how the incoming mail is to
| be split into groups.
| 
|      (setq nnmail-split-methods
|        '(("mail.junk" "^From:.*Lars Ingebrigtsen")
|          ("mail.crazy" "^Subject:.*die\\|^Organization:.*flabby")
|          ("mail.other" "")))
`----

and

,----[ (info "(gnus)Fancy Mail Splitting") ]
| If the rather simple, standard method for specifying how to split mail
| doesn't allow you to do what you want, you can set
| `nnmail-split-methods' to `nnmail-split-fancy'.  Then you can play
| with the `nnmail-split-fancy' variable.
`----

If you store your mail on an IMAP server, you can split mail like it's
described in

,----[ (info "(gnus)Splitting in IMAP") ]
| Splitting is something Gnus users have loved and used for years, and
| now the rest of the world is catching up.  Yeah, dream on, not many
| IMAP servers have server side splitting and those that have splitting
| seem to use some non-standard protocol.  This means that IMAP support
| for Gnus has to do its own splitting.
`----

But for IMAP you can use Sieve [1]. This has the advantage that
splitting is done on the server side, thus removing the dependency on
Gnus. So you can log into the mail providers web interface and still
your mail will be split correctly.

Bye,
Tassilo

Footnotes: 
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language)
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Re: Gnus sen mail problem from Ubuntu PC

[Hadron]

Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes:

>>>>>> "Tassilo" == Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
>
> Tassilo> Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes: Hi Torben,
>
>>> How do I do that? I think gnus insist on using sendmail!
>
> Tassilo> You can use sendmail or any smtp server with smtpmail.el,
> Tassilo> which comes with emacs/gnus. Maybe you need a more up-to-date
> Tassilo> version. Here's my config for it.
>
> Tassilo> ,----[ ~/.gnus.el ] | (require 'smtpmail) | (setq
> Tassilo> send-mail-with-sendmail nil) | (setq send-mail-function
> Tassilo> 'smtpmail-send-it) | (setq message-send-mail-function
> Tassilo> 'smtpmail-send-it) | (setq smtpmail-smtp-server
> Tassilo> "mail.messagingengine.com") `----
>
> That fixed my sending problem.  However I have a additional qestion: 
> I remember last I used gnus two years ago I save the mails i needed by
> moving them to groups by names like "nnimap+AUC:ARC.private".  I find
> this a bit strange and I can't figure out how to move these files to a
> subdirectory so they all clutter my root directory.
>
> Is the above the only way to store mail?
> Is the above the best way to store mail?
> If yes how can I use a subdirestory for these "nnimap+AUC:ARC." files?
>
> I find it quit difficult to read and understand the info/manual.

Did you look at procmail and fetchmail?

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