BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

Hi,

I am  using BBDB to  happily manage my  address book for Gnus  under several
platforms. 

At work we also have an Exchange  server that I can query for recipients via
LDAP and it works within Emacs via the Tools/Directory Search commands.

I wonder if one could interface Gnus and/or BBDB to call the LDAP server for
recipients  completion as  BBDB  already does  with  the TAB  key. In  other
words : how to have completion for the EUDC in addition to BBDB ? 

I  have  searched  and the  only  result  is  to  call  with a  key  binding
eudc-expand-inline separately from the BBDB completion... 

Did anyone ever tried that ? Thanks.

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Sébastien Kirche

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[David S. Goldberg]

> I  have  searched  and the  only  result  is  to  call  with a  key  binding
> eudc-expand-inline separately from the BBDB completion... 

eudc knows about bbdb as well and it to looks in both places, I'm
pretty sure, by default.  The only thing you lose with
eudc-expand-inline is completion cycling.  For when I need that
(rarely for me, may be important for you) I have mapped C-c TAB to
bbdb-complete-name.

-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

Le 29 Mar 2005, David S. Goldberg a formulé :

> eudc knows about bbdb as well and it to looks in both places, I'm
> pretty sure, by default.  The only thing you lose with
> eudc-expand-inline is completion cycling.  For when I need that
> (rarely for me, may be important for you) I have mapped C-c TAB to
> bbdb-complete-name.

I   have  searched   a  little   further  and   found  in   cvs   gnus  that
message-expand-name  has   been  modified  to   call  eudc-expand-inline  if
eudc-protocol is defined.

Seem to be exactly what i am looking for. 

But I  am with cvs  Emacs, not cvs Gnus  : maybe I  will have to wait  a bit
until merge of the feature ?

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Sébastien Kirche

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Mar 29 2005, Sébastien Kirche wrote:

> I have searched a little further and found in cvs gnus that
> message-expand-name has been modified to call eudc-expand-inline if
> eudc-protocol is defined.
>
> Seem to be exactly what i am looking for. 
>
> But I am with cvs Emacs, not cvs Gnus : maybe I will have to wait a
> bit until merge of the feature ?

Don't hold your breath.  Unless there is a change in the policies, No
Gnus will not be merged into Emacs 22.  You'll probably have to wait
for Emacs 23.  We only merge bugfixes to the stable branch (Gnus
5.10.x aka Oort Gnus) into Emacs' repository.  This is not a bugfix,
so I wouldn't install it in the stable branch without Lars' okay.  But
as this particular change is very limited, you may ask Lars whether it
is okay to install it in the stable branch.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

Le 29 mar 2005, Reiner Steib s'est exprimé ainsi :

> Don't hold your breath. 

Yep, i had noticed after my  former message that this modification is now 14
months old :/

> Unless there is a change in the  policies, No Gnus will not be merged into
> Emacs  22. You'll  probably  have to  wait  for Emacs  23.  We only  merge
> bugfixes  to the stable  branch (Gnus  5.10.x aka  Oort Gnus)  into Emacs'
> repository.

OK. I  misunderstood that merge policy :  i though that there  was defined a
periodic update from Gnus CVS to  Emacs CVS, not only with bugfixes but also
features.

> This  is not  a bugfix,  so I  wouldn't install  it in  the  stable branch
> without Lars' okay. But as this particular change is very limited, you may
> ask Lars whether it is okay to install it in the stable branch.

Well i don't  actually ask for such a personal favor...  And surely there is
also some other features that i could find useful.

Instead maybe you could tell me a recipe to update Emacs cvs with Gnus cvs ?
I have  already a local checkout  of Emacs that i  update/build regularly. I
could also checkout Gnus. Then ?

I could patch emacs/lisp/gnus with gnus/lisp directory and so on ? Maybe you
have a batch script for such update ?

TIA.

-- 
Sébastien Kirche

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Mar 29 2005, Sébastien Kirche wrote:

> Well i don't  actually ask for such a personal favor...  And surely there is
> also some other features that i could find useful.
>
> Instead maybe you could tell me a recipe to update Emacs cvs with Gnus cvs ?
> I have  already a local checkout  of Emacs that i  update/build regularly. I
> could also checkout Gnus. Then ?

Install Gnus (form CVS) and make sure that it's lisp directory
precedes .../emacs/22*/lisp/gnus/ from Emacs in `load-path'.

> I could patch emacs/lisp/gnus with gnus/lisp directory and so on ? Maybe you
> have a batch script for such update ?

http://theotp1.physik.uni-ulm.de/~ste/comp/emacs/gnus/Gnus-5-11.sh is
the script that I have used to install Gnus 5.10.6 in Emacs' CVS.  But
I don't use it anymore because the merging is done semi-automatically
by Miles Bader (using his arch repository).

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

Le 29 Mar 2005, Reiner Steib vraute :

> > Instead maybe you  could tell me a recipe to update  Emacs cvs with Gnus
> > cvs  ? I  have already  a local  checkout of  Emacs that  i update/build
> > regularly. I could also checkout Gnus. Then ?
> 
> Install Gnus (form CVS) and make sure that it's lisp directory
> precedes .../emacs/22*/lisp/gnus/ from Emacs in `load-path'.

It's ok. I used 

./configure --with-emacs --with-lispdir=/Users/seki/.elisp/gnus \
            --with-etcdir=/Users/seki/.elisp/gnus/etc

Then make  / make install.  It just  failed to fetch  the faq as  direct cvs
access does not function from my company network.

> > I could patch emacs/lisp/gnus with gnus/lisp directory and so on ? Maybe
> > you have a batch script for such update ?
> 
> http://theotp1.physik.uni-ulm.de/~ste/comp/emacs/gnus/Gnus-5-11.sh is
> the script that I have used to install Gnus 5.10.6 in Emacs' CVS.  But
> I don't use it anymore because the merging is done semi-automatically
> by Miles Bader (using his arch repository).

As the separate Gnus installation is  working, I might not need that script.
Thank you anyway.

-- 
Sébastien Kirche

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Mar 30 2005, Sébastien Kirche wrote:

> Then make  / make install.  It just  failed to fetch  the faq as  direct cvs
> access does not function from my company network.

Oops.  This should not happen.  I will see how I can fix that.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

Le 30 Mar 2005, Reiner Steib a formulé :

> > It just failed  to fetch the faq as direct cvs  access does not function
> > from my company network.
> 
> Oops. This should not happen. I will see how I can fix that.

I though it was known... 

BTW it failed twice (same reason - cvs checkout time-out): 
- at end of the configure script 
- with make install when copying the files

-- 
Sébastien Kirche

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Mar 30 2005, Sébastien Kirche wrote:

> Le 30 Mar 2005, Reiner Steib a formulé :
>
>> > It just failed  to fetch the faq as direct cvs  access does not function
>> > from my company network.
>> 
>> Oops. This should not happen. I will see how I can fix that.
>
> I though it was known... 

No, the generation of gnus-faq.texi is new.  I think what happened is
that the timestamp of xml2texi.sh and/or xml2texi.scm was newer than
gnus-faq.texi.  As gnus-faq.texi is distributed with Gnus CVS and
tarballs, fetching the FAQ from sourceforge shouldn't happen unless
you use "make gnus-faq-full-update".

> BTW it failed twice (same reason - cvs checkout time-out): 
> - at end of the configure script 
> - with make install when copying the files

Could you try the following patch (you must re-run configure
afterwards) and report back?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
--- Makefile.in	30 Mar 2005 12:33:27 -0000	6.29.2.6
+++ Makefile.in	30 Mar 2005 14:07:20 -0000
@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@
 	fi
 	mv $(REFCARD).pdf $@ 
 
-gnus-faq-full-update:  gnus-faq-clean gnus-faq.texi
+gnus-faq-full-update:  gnus-faq-clean gnus-faq-texi
 
 gnus-faq.xml:
 	cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gnus \
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@
 	  { echo "Update of $@ failed."; : rm $@.tmp; exit 1; }
 	mv $@.tmp $@
 
-gnus-faq.texi: gnus-faq.xml xml2texi.sh xml2texi.scm
+gnus-faq-texi: gnus-faq.xml xml2texi.sh xml2texi.scm
 	./xml2texi.sh $< $@.tmp
 	@echo
 # FIXME: This should be done in xml2texi.scm or gnus-faq.xml should be
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

Le 30 Mar 2005, Reiner Steib a dit :

> Could you try  the following patch (you must  re-run configure afterwards)
> and report back?

configure and make install seem ok now.
Thanks.

-- 
Sébastien Kirche

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Christophe Cuq]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

> No, the generation of gnus-faq.texi is new.  I think what happened is
> that the timestamp of xml2texi.sh and/or xml2texi.scm was newer than
> gnus-faq.texi.  As gnus-faq.texi is distributed with Gnus CVS and
> tarballs, fetching the FAQ from sourceforge shouldn't happen unless
> you use "make gnus-faq-full-update".

I  had a  problem  this morning,  not  with a  timeout,  but with  the
password to connect to cvs (on freshly cvs retrieved gnus) :

,----
| cd texi && make EMACS="emacs" all
| cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gnus \
|   co -p gnus-faq/src/gnus-faq.xml > gnus-faq.xml.tmp
| cvs checkout: cannot find password
| cvs [checkout aborted]: use "cvs login" to log in first
| make[1]: *** [gnus-faq.xml] Error 1
| make: *** [info] Error 2
`----

And I am unable to understand what to do to correct it.
Does your patch correct that problem ?

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CHC

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Mar 30 2005, Christophe Cuq wrote:

> Does your patch correct that problem ?

Obviously I don't have access to _your_ system, so at best I can
assume that it fixes the problem.

What's wrong with trying? ;-)

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Mar 30 2005, Sébastien Kirche wrote:

> Le 30 Mar 2005, Reiner Steib a dit :
>
>> Could you try  the following patch (you must  re-run configure afterwards)
>> and report back?
>
> configure and make install seem ok now.

Committed (to trunk and v5-10).  Thanks.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Christophe Cuq]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

> Obviously I don't have access to _your_ system, so at best I can
> assume that it fixes the problem.

A problem on _my_ system ? Uh.

As of  this morning  and the change  in the configure/make  process on
cvs-gnus with  trying to  fetch the gnus-faq  I never had  any problem
with cvs-gnus (I use it since, hum, gnus 5.6 or 5.7 I think).

And I  don't know  how to fix  the cvs  password problem to  fetch the
faq  (that never arrised  before the  change) reported  by the  log of
./configure && make I posted.

It's not /my/ change :)

> What's wrong with trying? ;-)

Nothing at all, just time to apply/test it :)

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CHC

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Christophe Cuq]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

> Committed (to trunk and v5-10).  Thanks.

I'll do a new cvs to try.

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CHC

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Christophe Cuq]

Christophe Cuq <christophe@cuq.org> writes:

> I'll do a new cvs to try.

And it works like a charm. Many thanks for your support :)

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CHC

Re: BBDB and EUDC/LDAP

[Sébastien Kirche]

At 16:03 on mar 29 2005, David S. Goldberg said :

[about searching recipient with eudc into both a ldap server *and* bbdb]

> eudc knows about bbdb as well and it to looks in both places, I'm
> pretty sure, by default.  The only thing you lose with
> eudc-expand-inline is completion cycling.  For when I need that
> (rarely for me, may be important for you) I have mapped C-c TAB to
> bbdb-complete-name.

Some  weeks ago  i  completed my  configuration  to look  into the  ldap
directory of my company and my bbdb.

I forget to  post the result. FWIW  i publish it, maybe one  can find it
useful ?

Just to give some details :

- i use  gnus/bbdb both at home and  at work, but i  have ldap directory
  only at work  (server named work-server) and I  have only one .emacs
  and one .gnus. So I enable ldap settings after testing the system-name

-  my  system  at  work  is  a  Macintosh with  OSX  so  I  also  enable
  Address Book searching

- 'SAGE' is a given organisational unit that is set in the ldap tree

(setq message-expand-name-databases '(eudc)) ; was bbdb

;; réglages Emacs Unified Directory Client
(require 'eudc nil t)
(require 'eudcb-bbdb nil t)
(require 'eudcb-mab nil t)      ;; support Macintosh Address Book - needs 'contacts'
                                ;; http://www.newartisans.com/johnw/Emacs/eudcb-mab.el
                                ;; http://gnufoo.org/contacts/contacts.html

(eudc-set-server "localhost" 'bbdb t);;main server
(setq eudc-inline-expansion-servers 'hotlist);;search in hotlist order
(add-to-list 'eudc-server-hotlist '("localhost" . bbdb) t)
(eudc-protocol-set 'eudc-inline-query-format
				   '((firstname)
					 (lastname)
					 (firstname lastname)
					 (net))
				   'bbdb)
(eudc-protocol-set 'eudc-inline-expansion-format
				   '("%s %s <%s>" firstname lastname net)
				   'bbdb)
(when (string-match "\\`goudurix" system-name)
  (add-to-list 'eudc-server-hotlist '("localhost" . mab) t)
  (add-to-list 'eudc-server-hotlist '("work-server" . ldap) t)
  (setq ldap-host-parameters-alist '(("work-server" base "o=SAGE" auth nil scope subtree))
 		eudc-query-form-attributes '(uid name firstname email))
  (eudc-protocol-set 'eudc-inline-query-format
					 '((name)
					   (email))
					 'mab)
  (eudc-protocol-set 'eudc-inline-expansion-format
					 '("%s <%s>" name email)
					 'mab)
  (eudc-protocol-set 'eudc-inline-query-format
					 '(;(cn)
					   ;(cn cn)
					   ;(cn cn cn)
					   ;(sn)
					   ;(givenname)
					   ;(surname)
					   ;(givenname surname)
					   ;(fullname)
					   (uid)
					   (name)
					   ;(surname)
					   (mail))
					 'ldap)
  (eudc-protocol-set 'eudc-inline-expansion-format
					 '("%s <%s>"  cn mail)
					 'ldap)
  )

HTH.
-- 
Sébastien Kirche