Strange message deleting mail files

Strange message deleting mail files

[Sarir Khamsi]

I am using Gnus with IMAP to read my mail and after trying to delete a
message with 'B <backspace>' (gnus-summary-delete-article), I get the
following message:

Expiry recovered 0 NOV entries, deleted 0 files, and freed 0.000000 B.

It doesn't sound good. Any idea what this means? Did it fail to delete
the message? I'm using Gnus 5.10.6. Thanks.

Sarir

Re: Strange message deleting mail files

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Mar 17 2005, Sarir Khamsi wrote:

> I am using Gnus with IMAP to read my mail and after trying to delete a
> message with 'B <backspace>' (gnus-summary-delete-article), I get the
> following message:
>
> Expiry recovered 0 NOV entries, deleted 0 files, and freed 0.000000 B.
>
> It doesn't sound good. Any idea what this means? Did it fail to delete
> the message? I'm using Gnus 5.10.6. Thanks.

This message is from `gnus-agent-expire-done-message', i.e. it is
related to the expiry of the agent cache.  I think[1] it has nothing
to do with your previous `gnus-summary-delete-article' command.
`gnus-summary-delete-article' deletes immediately.

Bye, Reiner.

[1] I don't use the agent myself, so I might be missing something.
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Re: Strange message deleting mail files

[Sarir Khamsi]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

> This message is from `gnus-agent-expire-done-message', i.e. it is
> related to the expiry of the agent cache.  I think[1] it has nothing
> to do with your previous `gnus-summary-delete-article' command.
> `gnus-summary-delete-article' deletes immediately.
>
> Bye, Reiner.
>
> [1] I don't use the agent myself, so I might be missing something.

OK, thanks. I checked and the messages are being deleted. It is still
annoying. Do you know where I should look to get rid of the message or
fix whatever is wrong? Thanks.

Sarir

Re: Strange message deleting mail files

[Reiner Steib]

On Fri, Mar 18 2005, Sarir Khamsi wrote:

> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

[ "Expiry recovered 0 NOV entries, deleted 0 files, and freed 0.000000 B." ]
>> This message is from `gnus-agent-expire-done-message', i.e. it is
>> related to the expiry of the agent cache.  I think[1] it has nothing
>> to do with your previous `gnus-summary-delete-article' command.
>> `gnus-summary-delete-article' deletes immediately.
[...]
>> [1] I don't use the agent myself, so I might be missing something.
>
> OK, thanks. I checked and the messages are being deleted. It is still
> annoying. Do you know where I should look to get rid of the message or
> fix whatever is wrong? Thanks.

I think nothing is wrong there.  Maybe the message level (confer `C-h
v gnus-verbose RET' [1]) is too low: It is at level 4.
[ I cannot judge if the levels in gnus-agent.el should be adjusted.
  Kevin (Cc-ed in this message), could you comment on this? ]

When you set `gnus-verbose' to 3 or less, the expiry message will
disappear, but this also makes other parts of Gnus more quiet.

Bye, Reiner.

[1]
,----[ C-h v gnus-verbose RET ]
| gnus-verbose's value is 7
| 
| *Integer that says how verbose Gnus should be.
| The higher the number, the more messages Gnus will flash to say what
| it's doing.  At zero, Gnus will be totally mute; at five, Gnus will
| display most important messages; and at ten, Gnus will keep on
| jabbering all the time.
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Re: Strange message deleting mail files

[Kevin Greiner]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 18 2005, Sarir Khamsi wrote:
>
>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
>
> [ "Expiry recovered 0 NOV entries, deleted 0 files, and freed 0.000000 B." ]
>>> This message is from `gnus-agent-expire-done-message', i.e. it is
>>> related to the expiry of the agent cache.  I think[1] it has nothing
>>> to do with your previous `gnus-summary-delete-article' command.
>>> `gnus-summary-delete-article' deletes immediately.
> [...]
>>> [1] I don't use the agent myself, so I might be missing something.
>>
>> OK, thanks. I checked and the messages are being deleted. It is still
>> annoying. Do you know where I should look to get rid of the message or
>> fix whatever is wrong? Thanks.
>
> I think nothing is wrong there.  Maybe the message level (confer `C-h
> v gnus-verbose RET' [1]) is too low: It is at level 4.
> [ I cannot judge if the levels in gnus-agent.el should be adjusted.
>   Kevin (Cc-ed in this message), could you comment on this? ]
>
> When you set `gnus-verbose' to 3 or less, the expiry message will
> disappear, but this also makes other parts of Gnus more quiet.
>
> Bye, Reiner.

Well, the gnus-agent-expire* functions were originally written for
manual (i.e. administrative) use.  I added the status messsage because
it was rather hard to tell whether the enough groups had been expired.
Since that time, agent expiration has been linked into article
expiration (gnus-request-expire-articles).  This was done to actually
fix a bug in which expired articles kept reappearing in the summary
buffer.

You find the message to be annoying.  Can you indicate how annoying?
I can easily change the message level but I'll probably annoy those
users who expect the message to appear.  Still, re-reading
gnus-verbose for the Nth time, I probably should have made this a
level 6, or possibly 7, message rather than the current 4.

Kevin

Re: Strange message deleting mail files

[Sarir Khamsi]

Kevin Greiner <kevin.greiner@vignette.com> writes:

> You find the message to be annoying.  Can you indicate how annoying?

Not very. As long as I understand where it is coming from, that will
help.

> I can easily change the message level but I'll probably annoy those
> users who expect the message to appear.  Still, re-reading
> gnus-verbose for the Nth time, I probably should have made this a
> level 6, or possibly 7, message rather than the current 4.

I would not request any changes here. Thanks.

Sarir

Re: Strange message deleting mail files

[Reiner Steib]

On Sat, Mar 19 2005, Kevin Greiner wrote:

> I can easily change the message level but I'll probably annoy those
> users who expect the message to appear.  

As the default of `gnus-verbose' is 7, it would be okay to adjust the
levels for consistency.

> Still, re-reading gnus-verbose for the Nth time, I probably should
> have made this a level 6, or possibly 7, message rather than the
> current 4.

Maybe you implemented it before `gnus-verbose' got its doc string
(there was just a comment previously).

Bye, Reiner.
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