* Default character encoding
@ 2017-07-23 17:16 Richmond
2017-07-23 17:36 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Richmond @ 2017-07-23 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Is it possible to make Gnus default to Windows-1252 (or iso-8859-?) when
no character set is specified in headers of news articles?
I searched but only found the concept of washing, which replaces “ when
encoded as octal 224 with `` for example. W Y f. A very useful function
anyway.
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-23 17:16 Default character encoding Richmond
@ 2017-07-23 17:36 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-23 17:52 ` Richmond
2017-07-24 4:44 ` Teemu Likonen
2017-07-24 11:33 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2017-07-23 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Richmond wrote:
> I searched but only found the concept of
> washing, which replaces “ when encoded as
> octal 224 with `` for example. W Y f. A very
> useful function anyway.
>
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As you seem to be so concerned with the
appearance of articles, how about reading
section 4.3 in RFC 3676? :)
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-23 17:36 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2017-07-23 17:52 ` Richmond
2017-07-23 18:47 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Richmond @ 2017-07-23 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:
>
> As you seem to be so concerned with the
> appearance of articles, how about reading
> section 4.3 in RFC 3676? :)
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt
OK my lawyer and I read the document. I think I get what you are
saying. :)
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-23 17:52 ` Richmond
@ 2017-07-23 18:47 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2017-07-23 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Richmond wrote:
> This signature is entended purely to provide
> a signature.
This reply is for display purposes ONLY.
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-23 17:16 Default character encoding Richmond
2017-07-23 17:36 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2017-07-24 4:44 ` Teemu Likonen
2017-07-24 15:04 ` Richmond
2017-07-24 11:33 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
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From: Teemu Likonen @ 2017-07-24 4:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richmond; +Cc: info-gnus-english
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Richmond [2017-07-23 18:16:50+01] wrote:
> Is it possible to make Gnus default to Windows-1252 (or iso-8859-?)
> when no character set is specified in headers of news articles?
Yes. See variables gnus-default-charset and gnus-group-charset-alist.
For example:
(setq gnus-default-charset 'windows-1252)
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-23 17:16 Default character encoding Richmond
2017-07-23 17:36 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-24 4:44 ` Teemu Likonen
@ 2017-07-24 11:33 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
2017-07-24 12:23 ` Richmond
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From: Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) @ 2017-07-24 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Richmond <p1299721@protonmail.com> 께서 쓰시길,
《記事 全文 <86d18rt6nx.fsf@example.com> 에서》:
> Is it possible to make Gnus default to Windows-1252 (or iso-8859-?) when
> no character set is specified in headers of news articles?
How about this: in ~/.emacs
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
#+END_SRC
Then Gnus display on UTF-8, always!!!
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-24 11:33 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
@ 2017-07-24 12:23 ` Richmond
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From: Richmond @ 2017-07-24 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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soyeomul@doraji.xyz (Byung-Hee HWANG "(황병희, 黃炳熙)") writes:
>
> How about this: in ~/.emacs
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
> (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
> #+END_SRC
>
> Then Gnus display on UTF-8, always!!!
Thanks. I've, um, slightly adapted that for my needs. :)
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-24 4:44 ` Teemu Likonen
@ 2017-07-24 15:04 ` Richmond
2017-07-24 16:50 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Richmond @ 2017-07-24 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> writes:
> Richmond [2017-07-23 18:16:50+01] wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to make Gnus default to Windows-1252 (or iso-8859-?)
>> when no character set is specified in headers of news articles?
>
> Yes. See variables gnus-default-charset and gnus-group-charset-alist.
> For example:
>
> (setq gnus-default-charset 'windows-1252)
Thanks, that's an even better solution I think.
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-24 15:04 ` Richmond
@ 2017-07-24 16:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-28 16:30 ` Richmond
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2017-07-24 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Richmond wrote:
>> Is it possible to make Gnus default to
>> Windows-1252 (or iso-8859-?) when no
>> character set is specified in headers of
>> news articles? Yes. See variables
>> gnus-default-charset and
>> gnus-group-charset-alist. For example: (setq
>> gnus-default-charset 'windows-1252)
>
> Thanks, that's an even better solution
> I think.
I have:
(setq mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '((utf-8 . 8bit)))
This is getting confusing...
And: How can you tell what encoding is in
effect in an article?
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-24 16:50 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2017-07-28 16:30 ` Richmond
2017-07-30 1:09 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Richmond @ 2017-07-28 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:
>
> And: How can you tell what encoding is in
> effect in an article?
I think you can use C-U C-X =
Put the curser over a character in the article whose encoding you would
like to know. If you are using gmane (or maybe even if you are not) try
it on these:
𐅻
“
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-28 16:30 ` Richmond
@ 2017-07-30 1:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-30 16:26 ` Richmond
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2017-07-30 1:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Richmond wrote:
> I think you can use C-U C-X =
`C-x =' is `what-cursor-position' and with C-u
it brings up DETAILs instead of just a short
message in the echo area.
The information with C-u is identical to what
you get with `describe-char'.
> Put the curser over a character in the
> article whose encoding you would like to
> know. If you are using gmane (or maybe even
> if you are not) try it on these:
>
> 𐅻
The Linux VT can't display it other than as
a diamond but the encoding is utf-8-emacs.
> “
Displayable, utf-8-emacs.
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-30 1:09 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2017-07-30 16:26 ` Richmond
2017-07-30 21:37 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Richmond @ 2017-07-30 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:
> Richmond wrote:
>
>> I think you can use C-U C-X =
>
> `C-x =' is `what-cursor-position' and with C-u
> it brings up DETAILs instead of just a short
> message in the echo area.
>
> The information with C-u is identical to what
> you get with `describe-char'.
>
>> Put the curser over a character in the
>> article whose encoding you would like to
>> know. If you are using gmane (or maybe even
>> if you are not) try it on these:
>>
>> 𐅻
>
> The Linux VT can't display it other than as
> a diamond but the encoding is utf-8-emacs.
>
>> “
>
> Displayable, utf-8-emacs.
What's the linux VT? The virtual console? I am using xfce4-terminal and
that can display it with xos4-terminus font. I think you would have to
change the font on the console to one which supported unicode.
Well I guess it told you the encoding anyway, which is what you wanted
to know.
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* Re: Default character encoding
2017-07-30 16:26 ` Richmond
@ 2017-07-30 21:37 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2017-07-30 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Richmond wrote:
> What's the linux VT? The virtual console?
The console = the Linux VTs = the
teletypewriters or ttys.
By default, you get to them from X with
Control Alt F1.
> I am using xfce4-terminal and that can
> display it with xos4-terminus font. I think
> you would have to change the font on the
> console to one which supported unicode.
It is the console that only supports a (more)
limited number of chars.
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