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From: Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de>
To: mario.blaettermann@gmail.com
Cc: discuss@mandoc.bsd.lv
Subject: Re: HTML output: section headers with diacritics not in table of contents
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 10:25:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yj7cF7D3DiE73t4z@asta-kit.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yj4yHgDADlRCBZFd@www.stare.cz>

Hi Mario,

Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:20:30PM +0100:
> On Mar 25 21:59:26, mario.blaettermann@gmail.com wrote:
>> Am Fr., 25. März 2022 um 21:36 Uhr schrieb Jan Stary <hans@stare.cz>:
>>> On Mar 25 17:57:21, mario.blaettermann@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>> Regarding -O toc, you should be aware that a number of senior OpenBSD
>>>>> developers hated the feature so much that i disabled it completely
>>>>> on man.openbsd.org.  They argue the feature is superfluous, noisy,
>>>>> and the whole idea of prefixing a TOC to a manual page is misguided.

>>>> To mention, the TOC works at man.openbsd.org, for example:
>>>> http://man.openbsd.org/mandoc#Syntax_tree_output

>>> I don't see a TOC on that page.

>> What you've expected is probably a TOC like [1].

> Yes, because that's what mandoc calls a TOC:
>   toc If an input file contains at least two non-standard sections,
>       print a table of contents near the beginning of the output.


To see what a "TABLE OF CONTENTS" (TOC) is, please look at


where i just enabled TOCs for demonstrational purposes and compare
that page to


where TOCs are disabled.

The mandoc(1) page never gets a TOC because it does not contain two
custom sections (in fact, not even one).

>> But the TOC generated
>> by Mandoc doesn't mean a real table of contents in this case, it's
>> merely a »hidden« TOC, which enables to click on section headers and
>> options to generate hyperlinks for that position. If you can open the
>> link mentioned above, and »Syntax tree output« is on top of the page
>> displayed in the browser, then this kind of TOC works.
>> [1] https://archlinux.org/pacman/makepkg.8.html

> I think these are 'tags' in the mandoc parlance.
> http://man.openbsd.org/mandoc#tag

Exactly, and that mandoc(1) terminology is motivated by this
pre-existing terminology:


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      reply	other threads:[~2022-03-26  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-24 17:13 Mario Blättermann
2022-03-24 17:33 ` Michael Stapelberg
2022-03-24 18:00   ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 12:27 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-25 16:07   ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 20:58     ` Jan Stary
2022-03-26 12:34     ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-26 13:35       ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 16:21   ` Anthony J. Bentley
2022-03-25 21:15     ` Jan Stary
2022-03-26 10:33     ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-26 17:55       ` Anthony J. Bentley
2022-03-27 11:17         ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-27 11:44           ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-25 16:57   ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 20:36     ` Jan Stary
2022-03-25 20:59       ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 21:20         ` Jan Stary
2022-03-26  9:25           ` Ingo Schwarze [this message]

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