From: u-igbb@aetey.se
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Locale bikeshed time
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:15:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140725201551.GQ16795@example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140725090649.GN16795@example.net>
Replying to myself.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:06:49AM +0200, u-igbb@aetey.se wrote:
> Returning to the naming. As language-based locales are named
> after languages, it would be nice to name other kinds of locale
> data after their "natural association" too. Then politically-bound
> data could be put into the corresponding "territorial" family:
>
> language ll[l][_TT]
> territory TT[_ll[l]]
A bad idea, forget it. This would be open to misinterpretation
(which key is "more fundamental" for a certain kind of data,
shall it go to ll_TT or TT_ll ?)
Somewhat cleaner might be: ("zxx" and "ZZ" below are literals)
no localization C
language[+territory] ll[l][_TT]
purely territorial zxx_TT ("no language" code)
and possibly
no territory-specific stuff included ll[l]_ZZ ("no territory" code)
The last item would e.g. allow treating ll[l] alone as "including
the most frequently used territorial features for this language"
(like "sv" == "sv_SE"),
but I think this approach would be bad and confusing - such a definition
is not certain nor stable.
I think that a language code alone should mean "no territory-specific
stuff included" and nothing else.
Then "ll" would be a synonym for "ll_ZZ" and hence "ll_ZZ" will not have
to exist at all.
Then the usage would be like
LANG=de_DE (... "€")
LANG=sv_SE (decimal comma, "kr")
LANG=sv LC_MONETARY=zxx_SE (decimal point from "C", iso4217 "SEK")
LANG=sv_FI LC_MONETARY=sv_SE (... "kr")
LANG=eo LC_MONETARY=zxx_EU (... iso4217 "EUR")
Assuming that any categories not explicitly defined
in the corresponding files are to be taken from "C".
Hope this makes some sense in your eyes.
Rune
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-25 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-22 18:49 Rich Felker
2014-07-22 20:10 ` u-igbb
2014-07-22 20:35 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-23 9:50 ` u-igbb
2014-07-23 16:39 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-23 19:25 ` u-igbb
2014-07-23 21:01 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 15:35 ` u-igbb
2014-07-24 16:01 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 19:24 ` u-igbb
2014-07-24 20:15 ` u-igbb
2014-07-24 22:02 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-25 9:06 ` u-igbb
2014-07-25 20:15 ` u-igbb [this message]
2014-07-25 22:32 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 7:25 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 8:03 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 9:06 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-07-26 9:25 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 9:38 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 17:47 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2014-07-26 18:23 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 18:59 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 19:14 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 18:56 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 19:30 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-27 7:28 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 20:43 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-27 7:51 ` u-igbb
2014-07-27 8:00 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-27 8:24 ` u-igbb
2014-07-23 23:22 ` writeonce
2014-07-23 23:38 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 1:07 ` writeonce
2014-07-24 1:57 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 2:16 ` writeonce
2014-07-24 2:24 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 2:59 ` writeonce
2014-07-22 20:17 ` Laurent Bercot
2014-07-22 20:36 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-23 22:03 ` Laurent Bercot
2014-07-23 22:12 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 15:38 ` u-igbb
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