From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Locale bikeshed time
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:43:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140726204329.GR4038@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140725201551.GQ16795@example.net>
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:15:51PM +0200, u-igbb@aetey.se wrote:
> Replying to myself.
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:06:49AM +0200, u-igbb@aetey.se wrote:
> > Returning to the naming. As language-based locales are named
> > after languages, it would be nice to name other kinds of locale
> > data after their "natural association" too. Then politically-bound
> > data could be put into the corresponding "territorial" family:
> >
> > language ll[l][_TT]
> > territory TT[_ll[l]]
>
> A bad idea, forget it. This would be open to misinterpretation
> (which key is "more fundamental" for a certain kind of data,
> shall it go to ll_TT or TT_ll ?)
I wasn't quite sure where to inject this reply into the thread, but
one thing I just remembered is that glibc (and the XSI option for
POSIX) has [.charset] as part of the standard form for locale names,
and all of glibc's usable locales end in ".UTF-8". So a user on a
mixed system is likely to have their locale vars set to include
".UTF-8 "at the end, and therefore wouldn't get any localization when
running musl-linked programs with the locale names we've proposed.
The way I see it, we could either have the locale package provide
symlinks to all of the locales with ".UTF-8" on the end, or musl
itself could ignore anything starting with the first '.' in a locale
name. One downside of symlinks is that a locale could uselessly get
mapped twice if somebody happens to reference it by both names in
their locale vars. It also puts more of a configuration/complexity
burden on the installation. But it does keep policy out of libc and
saves a few bytes of code in libc.
Any opinions on the matter?
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-26 20:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-22 18:49 Rich Felker
2014-07-22 20:10 ` u-igbb
2014-07-22 20:35 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-23 9:50 ` u-igbb
2014-07-23 16:39 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-23 19:25 ` u-igbb
2014-07-23 21:01 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 15:35 ` u-igbb
2014-07-24 16:01 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 19:24 ` u-igbb
2014-07-24 20:15 ` u-igbb
2014-07-24 22:02 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-25 9:06 ` u-igbb
2014-07-25 20:15 ` u-igbb
2014-07-25 22:32 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 7:25 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 8:03 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 9:06 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-07-26 9:25 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 9:38 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 17:47 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2014-07-26 18:23 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 18:59 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 19:14 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-26 18:56 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 19:30 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-27 7:28 ` u-igbb
2014-07-26 20:43 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2014-07-27 7:51 ` u-igbb
2014-07-27 8:00 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-27 8:24 ` u-igbb
2014-07-23 23:22 ` writeonce
2014-07-23 23:38 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 1:07 ` writeonce
2014-07-24 1:57 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 2:16 ` writeonce
2014-07-24 2:24 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 2:59 ` writeonce
2014-07-22 20:17 ` Laurent Bercot
2014-07-22 20:36 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-23 22:03 ` Laurent Bercot
2014-07-23 22:12 ` Rich Felker
2014-07-24 15:38 ` u-igbb
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