From: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: helitao <helitao@huawei.com>,
"Huangqiang (H)" <h.huangqiang@huawei.com>,
Jinyongming <jinyongming@huawei.com>,
leijitang <leijitang@huawei.com>,
"liuyutao (C)" <liuyutao2@huawei.com>,
"Liyu (Marvin, Euler Dept)" <marvin.tms@huawei.com>,
"Threefifteen Wang(Kunfeng)"
<threefifteen.wangkunfeng@huawei.com>,
"Wudilong (Michael)" <wudilong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [proposal] Add detection of thread ID in pthread-related interfaces
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:57:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190611135741.GY16415@port70.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF320752F2B99449115298D4A06B22F34E3DD31@dggemm509-mbx.china.huawei.com>
* pengyuanhong <pengyuanhong@huawei.com> [2019-06-11 11:36:59 +0000]:
> I find that all pthread-related interfaces directly access the input
> parameter `pthread_t` without any check. If I pass an invalid thread ID
> (e.g. an exited thread ID) to these interfaces, then segment fault
> happens.
>
> Both glibc and freebsd can do simple detection of thread ID(pthread_t)
> passed by user and return ESRCH when no thread can be found. They
that's a historical bug in posix: it required ESRCH
which is not possible when the thread id is reused,
so all such requirments were removed in posix 2008
https://collaboration.opengroup.org/austin/interps/documents/14366/AI-142.txt
passing invalid id is simply undefined now, an
implementation may still detect the condition and
then posix recommends ESRCH in the rationale
presumably for backward compatibility:
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/pthread_join.html
but since applications must not rely on ESRCH,
it has questionable value: the obvious safe and
secure handling of ub is guaranteed immediate
crash: the api contract got violated, the
application is misbehaving so there is no reason
to believe returning an error will make it
non-misbehave.
the only way forward is to fix the broken
application code, the runtime and tooling can
only help by providing better diagnostics
about what went wrong.
> put all threads in a list or hash table, and update this list or table every
> time a thread is created or exits.
>
> >From the user's point of view, segment fault is unbearable and is not
> * recoverable in most cases. Instead, returning an error of ESRCH
> * seems more acceptable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-11 13:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-11 11:36 pengyuanhong
2019-06-11 13:57 ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2019-06-11 14:36 ` Rich Felker
2019-06-11 15:58 ` Li Yu
2019-06-11 16:15 ` Rich Felker
2019-06-11 16:09 ` Rich Felker
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