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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Reiner Herrmann <reiner@reiner-h.de>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: realpath after chroot
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 13:38:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191008173850.GA16318@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191008172402.GH8814@reiner-h.de>

On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:24:02PM +0200, Reiner Herrmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that realpath is no longer working after chroot is called.
> With the example from below I get the following output with musl 1.1.23:
> 
> # ./a.out
> /
> No such file or directory
> 
> With glibc it is working as I would expect:
> 
> # ./a.out
> /
> /

This is a documented requirement:

    musl aims to avoid imposing filesystem policy; however, the
    following minimal set of filesystems dependencies must be met in
    order for programs using musl to function correctly:

    ...

    - /proc - must be a mount point for Linux procfs or a symlink to
      such. Several functions such as realpath, fexecve, and a number
      of the "at" functions added in POSIX 2008 need access to /proc
      to function correctly.

Source: https://www.musl-libc.org/doc/1.0.0/manual.html

It's been discussed in more depth in other places. Basically, Linux
makes it impossible to do some things needed for a fully working
C/POSIX implementation without /proc, so we have to treat it as a
"requirement". Some subset of functionality works without it, but no
formal specification of exactly what works is made by musl.

For realpath, indeed it can be implemented in userspace without /proc,
and it may be desirable to do so as a fallback. It might make sense to
do an analysis of "how essential" /proc still is on reasonably recent
kernels; if the need for it is isolated to dynamic linker stuff (rpath
origin, etc.) then it might make a lot of sense to formalize that
/proc is only mandatory for certain things.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-08 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-08 17:24 Reiner Herrmann
2019-10-08 17:38 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2019-10-08 17:49   ` Reiner Herrmann
2019-10-08 19:56   ` Markus Wichmann
2019-10-08 21:10     ` Rich Felker
2019-10-09  3:47       ` Markus Wichmann
2019-10-09 11:45         ` Rich Felker
2019-10-09 16:00           ` Markus Wichmann

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