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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] [PATCH 2/2] Add big-endian support to ARM assembler memcpy
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:22:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200115192215.GJ30412@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ86T=Wtvj3E9vGuxHGHmAoJU-0kSUqvL_hntt0zN2a8NT8sLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:41:08AM -0800, Andre McCurdy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:46 AM Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 01:38:34PM -0700, Andre McCurdy wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:59 AM Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:44:32AM -0700, Andre McCurdy wrote:
> > > > > Allow the existing ARM assembler memcpy implementation to be used for
> > > > > both big and little endian targets.
> > > >
> > > > Nice. I don't want to merge this just before release, but as long as
> > > > it looks ok I should be able to review and merge it afterward.
> > > >
> > > > Note that I'd really like to replace this giant file with C using
> > > > inline asm just for the inner block copies and C for all the flow
> > > > control, but I don't mind merging this first as long as it's correct.
> > >
> > > Sounds good. I'll wait for your feedback after the upcoming release.
> >
> > Sorry this dropped off my radar. I'd like to merge at least the thumb
> > part since it's simple enough to review quickly and users have
> > actually complained about memcpy being slow on armv7 with -mthumb as
> > default.
> 
> Interesting. I wonder what the reference was against which the musl C
> code was compared? From my own benchmarking I didn't find the musl
> assembler to be much faster than the C code. There are armv6 and maybe
> early armv7 CPUs where explicit prefetch instructions make a huge
> difference (much more so than C -vs- assembler). Did the users who
> complained about musl memcpy() compare against a memcpy() which uses
> prefetch? For armv7 using NEON may help, although the latest armv7
> cores seem to perform very well with plain old C code too. There are
> lots of trade offs so it's impossible for a single implementation to
> be universally optimal. The "arm-mem" routines used on Raspberry Pi
> seem to be a very fast for many targets, but unfortunately the armv6
> memcpy generates mis-aligned accesses so isn't suitable for armv5.
> 
>   https://github.com/bavison/arm-mem/

I'm not sure of the details but the comparison was just between the
armv6 version of Alpine and the armv7 version (so using musl's
memcpy_le.S vs memcpy.c).

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-13 18:44 [PATCH 1/2] Add Thumb2 " Andre McCurdy
2019-09-13 18:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add big-endian " Andre McCurdy
2019-09-13 18:59   ` Rich Felker
2019-09-13 20:38     ` Andre McCurdy
2020-01-15 15:45       ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2020-01-15 18:41         ` Andre McCurdy
2020-01-15 19:22           ` Rich Felker [this message]
2020-01-15 20:54             ` Andre McCurdy
2020-01-16 15:21           ` Natanael Copa
2020-01-15 16:35 ` [musl] [PATCH 1/2] Add Thumb2 " Rich Felker
2020-01-15 18:49   ` Andre McCurdy
2020-01-15 19:24     ` Rich Felker
2020-01-15 20:20       ` Andre McCurdy
2020-01-15 20:38         ` Rich Felker

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