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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Alexander Weps <exander77@pm.me>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Broken mktime calculations when crossing DST boundary
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:38:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240325193813.GH4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4-8Ne4x6ZXfJmyaJ2YBFpLfCYySv9--JLQJl9OcSwaKyCashDhJXsqAPuh7G8QYwQpn2JnjUJxfZX8t9Fo101Mg_6rwb_MpmbRhFRUpYoz8=@pm.me>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 06:57:49PM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
> I am not sure which one you mean, all latest codes even includes
> headers and main...

https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2024/03/25/3

> I have no idea what to tell you.

The first version I found that's actually compilable is:

https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2024/03/25/11

It roughly behaves as expected on musl, except possibly not applying
the tm_isdst=0, which is what was making the output confusing on
glibc -- that threw the input back across the rule change cutoff.

With tm_isdst=1 and tm_mday=31, on glibc, I get:

before: 2011-12-31 00:00:00 WSDT 0
after1: 2011-12-31 00:00:00 WSDT 1325239200
after2: 2011-12-30 00:00:00 WSDT -1
after3: 2011-12-31 00:00:00 WSDT 1325239200

The -1 in the after2 line indicates that mktime failed with an error
(and should not have modified tm; that's arguably a bug in glibc). The
partial modification that it made reflects the initial normalization
(type 1 in my notation) but not the rule change normalization (type 2
in my notation) since glibc has failed the operation for an input date
that does not exist on the calendar (it does not do type 2
normalization at all; it just rejects it).

Running this same change on musl, I get:

before: 2011-12-31 00:00:00  0
after1: 2011-12-31 00:00:00 +14 1325239200
after2: 2011-12-29 00:00:00 -10 1325152800
after3: 2011-12-29 00:00:00 -10 1325152800

which again is what I expect. From one side, the move-by-1-day changes
the time to the next calendar day in that direction. From the other
side, it's unable to change it.

I'll look into why the tm_isdst=0 application was not happening.

Rich






> On Monday, March 25th, 2024 at 19:53, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 06:28:14PM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, March 25th, 2024 at 19:02, Rich Felker dalias@libc.org wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 09:42:53AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 01:24:57PM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > See below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AW
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, March 25th, 2024 at 14:13, Rich Felker dalias@libc.org wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 12:55:28PM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you take your test program and switch it to initialize with
> > > > > > > > > tm_mday=31, then do -=1 instead of +=1, you'll find that it gives
> > > > > > > > > 2011-12-29 01:00:00 -10 as well, only now it seems like the correct,
> > > > > > > > > expected thing to happen. Any change to "fix" the case you're
> > > > > > > > > complaining about would necessarily break this case.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So (- day, +day):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Musl:
> > > > > > > > 2011-12-31 01:00:00 +14
> > > > > > > > 2011-12-29 01:00:00 -10
> > > > > > > > 2011-12-29 01:00:00 -10
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glibc:
> > > > > > > > 2012-01-01 01:00:00 +14
> > > > > > > > 2011-12-31 01:00:00 +14
> > > > > > > > 2012-01-01 01:00:00 +14
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Seems like musl doesn't even interpret the initial struct tm
> > > > > > > > correctly in that case. It is off by day.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Because December only had 30 days, 31s day after normalization is
> > > > > > > > January 1st.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is nonsense. December has a day 31, which you can clearly see
> > > > > > > from the glibc output. For this particular year in this zone, with the
> > > > > > > zone rule change, there are "only 30 days" in December, but they are
> > > > > > > numbered 1-29 and 31, not 1-30.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You confuse day of month which is represented in tm_mday with
> > > > > > calendar day that is interpreted by strftime.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You said to set tm_mday = 31, which would be January 1st after normalization.
> > > > > > December 31s is 30th day of month represented as tm_mday = 30.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I meant tm_mday=31-1.
> > > >
> > > > Um, no, where did you get that idea? I just assumed you were right
> > > > because I always forget which tm_* are off-by-1, but tm_mday is
> > > > one-based not zero-based:
> > > >
> > > > int tm_mday; // day of the month -- [1, 31]
> > > >
> > > > (per the standard). So how did you end up getting the wrong thing? Are
> > > > you even running the code you say you are?
> > >
> > > I have to sincerely ask if you are feeling ok?
> > > You seem not able to follow this conversation.
> > >
> > > What idea do you mean?
> > > Also you have the codes. You can like "I don't know" run them yourself?
> > > You question I run those codes without trying to run them yourself? Again?!
> > > What is going on?
> >
> >
> > The first few pieces of code you posted did not work because they
> > depended on other code you did not include, so I stopped trying to run
> > them.
> >
> > > Maybe I reiterate some basic facts for you and that will put you
> > > back on track.
> > >
> > > This was an example from an article provided earlier in this thread (by somebody).
> > > We are in TZ=Pacific/Apia.
> > > The 30th December was skipped in 2011. There was no December 30th.
> > > So, there were only 30 days in December.
> > > 30th day of the month December was December 31st.
> > >
> > > And run those examples yourself. I have no idea why I am being
> > > questioned if they generate the output when you can easily verify it
> > > yourself.
> >
> >
> > Which piece of self-contained, actually-runnable code would you like
> > me to look at that demonstrates something wrong? (i.e. not something I
> > have already said is behaving as expected)

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-25 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-24 13:36 Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 16:59 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 17:04 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 17:12   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:00     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:02     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:16       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:24         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:36           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:01             ` Joakim Sindholt
2024-03-24 19:05               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:06             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:22             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 19:57               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 20:22                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 20:50                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 21:43                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 23:51                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25  0:36                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 11:52                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 12:21                       ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 12:55                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:08                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:13                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:13                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:24                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:42                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:48                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:50                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:02                                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:28                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:53                                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:57                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 19:38                                         ` Rich Felker [this message]
2024-03-25 19:47                                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:05                                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:12                                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:00                                           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:23                                             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:31                                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 23:19                                     ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 23:16                                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 13:44                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 22:40                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 22:59                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:34                               ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 12:45                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-26 21:59                                   ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  0:14                                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  0:38                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  1:35                                       ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  2:45                                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  4:42                                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 18:56                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:13                             ` Rich Felker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-03-22 19:56 Alexander Weps
2024-03-23  6:41 ` Markus Wichmann
     [not found]   ` <528SeRFaPfDw7fA4kqKDlio1U4RB_t9nmUemPcWw9_t1e2hBDpXYFmOqxAC37szgYvAVtmTuXWsmT64SSN3cSQFVdrQqXUAgkdTMPZQ0bg0=@pm.me>
2024-03-23 10:38     ` Markus Wichmann
2024-03-23 11:59       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:00         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:31           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 13:49             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 15:31               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 16:54                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 18:57                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 19:33                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 20:18                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 20:40                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24  0:36                         ` Eric Pruitt
2024-03-24  2:04                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24  3:32                           ` Daniel Gutson
2024-03-24 11:05                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 13:24                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:01         ` Alexander Weps

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