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From: Alexander Weps <exander77@pm.me>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [musl] Broken mktime calculations when crossing DST boundary
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 20:40:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6rPmS4jev9oFFibDdpKZ0mVRWLV3rhRcfqaUKu-5lPP7lc8zz8UH_kgPFA4r8wh1-qrYKfzVBpB0Ss6z4VMANASybmKZMeB9i3W3auYfhMI=@pm.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240323201804.GT4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

Yes, the behavior is the same here glibc and musl and it can't reliably determine start of the day etc. Which is I assume expected.

That's why there is tm_isdst = -1.

I don't see any reliable way to determine beginning of the day without it.

If I want to get beginning of the day I do it this way:

before: 2010-10-31 14:00:00 CET
tm_sec: 0
tm_min: 0
tm_hour: 14
tm_mday: 31
tm_mon: 9
tm_year: 110
tm_wday: 0
tm_yday: 303
tm_isdst: 0
tm_gmtoff: 3600
tm_zone: CET

tm.tm_isdst = -1; <-- setting tm_isdst = -1
tm.tm_hour = 0;
mktime(&tm);

after: 2010-10-31 00:00:00 CEST
tm_sec: 0
tm_min: 0
tm_hour: 0
tm_mday: 31
tm_mon: 9
tm_year: 110
tm_wday: 0
tm_yday: 303
tm_isdst: 1
tm_gmtoff: 7200
tm_zone: CEST

Is there a way, how to reliable get beginning of day etc. without tm_isdst = -1.

AW


On Saturday, March 23rd, 2024 at 21:18, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 06:57:21PM +0000, Alexander Weps wrote:
>
> > So, in the meantime, I was debugging with not setting tm_isdst = -1;
> >
> > This causes pretty annoying behavior:
> >
> > before: 2010-10-31 14:00:00
> >
> > tm_sec: 0
> > tm_min: 0
> > tm_hour: 14
> > tm_mday: 31
> > tm_mon: 9
> > tm_year: 110
> > tm_wday: 0
> > tm_yday: 0
> > tm_isdst: 0
> > tm_gmtoff: 3600
> > tm_zone: CET
> >
> > tm->tm_hour = 0; <-- reset hour field
> > mktime(&tm);
> >
> > after: 2010-10-31 01:00:00 CEST <-- 10:00:00 instead of 00:00:00
>
>
> I guess you meant 01:00:00 not 10:00:00. This is expected. You asked
> mktime to normalize a time expressed in standard (non-DST, CET) time
> but referring to a time at which DST is in effect. After
> normalization, it expresses that time in DST (CEST). Since there is no
> tm_isdst<0 (the only source of arbitrary implementation choices)
> involved, you will find glibc and all other implementations do exactly
> the same thing here.
>
> > tm_sec: 0
> > tm_min: 0
> > tm_hour: 1
> > tm_mday: 31
> > tm_mon: 9
> > tm_year: 110
> > tm_wday: 0
> > tm_yday: 303
> > tm_isdst: 1
> > tm_gmtoff: 7200
> > tm_zone: CEST
> >
> > tm->tm_hour = 0;
> > mktime(&tm);
> >
> > after: 2010-10-31 00:00:00 CEST <-- second run gives a correct value
> > tm_sec: 0
> > tm_min: 0
> > tm_hour: 0
> > tm_mday: 31
> > tm_mon: 9
> > tm_year: 110
> > tm_wday: 0
> > tm_yday: 303
> > tm_isdst: 1
> > tm_gmtoff: 7200
> > tm_zone: CEST
> >
> > This basically means that setting field twice produces different
> > value each time:
>
>
> No it does not. After the first time, tm_isdst is 1. Now when you
> change the hour to 0, you are giving it a time expressed in DST. Since
> DST is in effect at this time, it's already normalized, and you get
> back what you put in.
>
> Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-23 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-22 19:56 Alexander Weps
2024-03-23  6:41 ` Markus Wichmann
     [not found]   ` <528SeRFaPfDw7fA4kqKDlio1U4RB_t9nmUemPcWw9_t1e2hBDpXYFmOqxAC37szgYvAVtmTuXWsmT64SSN3cSQFVdrQqXUAgkdTMPZQ0bg0=@pm.me>
2024-03-23 10:38     ` Markus Wichmann
2024-03-23 11:59       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:00         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:31           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 13:49             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 15:31               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 16:54                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 18:57                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 19:33                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 20:18                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-23 20:40                       ` Alexander Weps [this message]
2024-03-24  0:36                         ` Eric Pruitt
2024-03-24  2:04                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24  3:32                           ` Daniel Gutson
2024-03-24 11:05                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 13:24                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-23 12:01         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 13:36 Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 16:59 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 17:04 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 17:12   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:00     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:02     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:16       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 18:24         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 18:36           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:01             ` Joakim Sindholt
2024-03-24 19:05               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:06             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:13               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 19:22             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 19:57               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 20:22                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-24 20:50                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 21:43                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-24 23:51                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25  0:36                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 11:52                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 12:21                       ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 12:55                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:08                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:13                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:13                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:24                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:42                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 13:48                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 13:50                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:02                                 ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:28                                   ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 18:53                                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 18:57                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 19:38                                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 19:47                                           ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:05                                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:12                                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:00                                           ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 20:23                                             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 20:31                                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-25 23:19                                     ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 23:16                                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 13:44                               ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 22:40                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-25 22:59                             ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:34                               ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 12:45                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-26 21:59                                   ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  0:14                                     ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  0:38                                       ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  1:35                                       ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-27  2:45                                         ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-27  4:42                                           ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-26 18:56                                 ` Alexander Weps
2024-03-25 23:13                             ` Rich Felker

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