From: John Spencer <maillist-musl@barfooze.de>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: NULL
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:47:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50ED74FE.9030306@barfooze.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130109130927.GA2947@openwall.com>
On 01/09/2013 02:09 PM, croco@openwall.com wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 12:02:29PM +0100, John Spencer wrote:
>
>> so for me, there are 3 options how to deal with issue in the future:
>> 2) change musl so it is compatible with those apps. this would mean:
>
>> this change is the easiest solution: any problem will be magically fixed.
> [...]
> However, sometimes the practice forces us to do wrong things just because
> we have no time or resources to do what is the right, and it looks like
> this is exactly the case. So perhaps the "option 2" will finally be
> choosen, despite we don't like it. However, I'd suggest at least to let
> the people know this is a WORKAROUND for the bugs THEY introduce: make this
> hack disabled by default, enabled by a compile-time option, and issue a
> warning which points them to this discussion or something similar.
as of now, musl only supports a single configuration.
having 2 different versions of musl in the wild, one that works with
their apps and another one that does not, is definitely not desirable
> Something like "Okay, if your program doesn't work without this workaround,
> then you can use the workaround, but you'd better fix your program". This
> will not do much influence while musl is not so popular, but I hope it will
> become popular one day (I really do... let's give the damn world a chance),
> and then the people will have something to think about.
here we have the typical chicken-and-egg problem: as long as
applications compiled with musl just crash, while they work perfectly
well with glibc, i think most contributors will become discouraged soon
and continue using what they're familiar with.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-09 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-09 11:02 NULL John Spencer
2013-01-09 12:18 ` NULL Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-09 13:36 ` NULL John Spencer
2013-01-12 6:32 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-12 6:46 ` NULL Rich Felker
2013-01-12 7:15 ` NULL Luca Barbato
2013-01-12 13:33 ` NULL Rich Felker
2013-01-12 11:39 ` NULL Jens Staal
2013-01-09 13:09 ` NULL croco
2013-01-09 13:47 ` John Spencer [this message]
2013-01-09 14:49 ` NULL croco
2013-01-09 14:42 ` NULL Luca Barbato
2013-01-09 14:47 ` NULL Rich Felker
2013-01-09 15:03 ` NULL Luca Barbato
2013-01-09 15:18 ` NULL John Spencer
2013-01-09 15:36 ` NULL Rich Felker
2013-01-09 21:11 ` NULL Rob
2013-01-09 21:53 ` NULL Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-09 22:17 ` NULL Rob
2013-01-09 23:42 ` NULL Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-12 6:56 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-12 7:07 ` NULL Bobby Bingham
2013-01-12 13:31 ` NULL Rich Felker
2013-01-13 14:29 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-13 14:56 ` NULL Luca Barbato
2013-01-13 16:29 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-13 17:14 ` NULL Luca Barbato
2013-01-13 15:23 ` NULL Strake
2013-01-13 17:17 ` NULL Luca Barbato
2013-01-13 17:47 ` NULL Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-13 19:46 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-14 6:11 ` NULL Rich Felker
2013-01-14 8:45 ` musl as a framework to test applications' compatibility with POSIX (was: NULL) Vasily Kulikov
2013-01-14 14:03 ` Rich Felker
2013-01-14 14:30 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-01-14 15:02 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-01-14 15:14 ` Rich Felker
2013-01-14 13:19 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-12 5:56 ` NULL Rob Landley
2013-01-12 6:42 ` NULL Rich Felker
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