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From: "Daniel Cegiełka" <daniel.cegielka@gmail.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: getrandom syscall
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 19:12:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPLrYETD0Pbn-ZjqZSg6kjGQ7hVVVsHUAqZtGXwSuMwbzcQEHw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDERwrLPpg4acOM4tAv0xu3dAqSe3EnLUH36homn3mBHEkYrA@mail.gmail.com>

2015-01-28 18:43 GMT+01:00 Brent Cook <busterb@gmail.com>:
> Here is the wrapper in LibreSSL for getrandom, to hopefully lend to
> the discussion:
>
> https://github.com/libressl-portable/openbsd/blob/master/src/lib/libcrypto/crypto/getentropy_linux.c#L194
>
> It tries to avoid a couple of possible issues. FIrst, while <= 256
> byte getrandom should not interrupt, it appears that if the kernel
> entropy pool has not been initialized yet, it would still return EINTR
> if called early enough in the boot process. How likely this is in
> practice, I don't know.
>
> Then, to avoid modifying errno even though there was an actual
> success, the wrapper restores the previous errno value when it
> succeeds.
>
> I just realized that the length check in getentropy_getrandom() is
> redundant, since it is checked earlier in getentropy() as well, but
> hopefully this is helpful.
>
> If a getentropy() were added to musl libc, but in such a way that it
> might fail on older kernels, that would cause some problems with
> LibreSSL, and now OpenNTPD. They will both try to use getentropy()
> with arc4random() if it is found in a system, and arc4random() will
> treat a getentropy() failure as fatal.

Thank you for your feedback. That's right, arc4random() sometimes
ended with an abort() and this is a huge problem. I used  /dev/urandom
as a source of entropy for arc4random(), but it can fail (eg. in a
chroot), so if arc4random() calls abort(), then the whole process
ends.

btw. thanks for your work on OpenNTPD. I was planning to send an
adjtimex() patch, but I see that you already did:

https://github.com/openntpd-portable/openntpd-portable/commit/eeb97529cd5a332a69a312687e41939eb17f7a81

Daniel

> Thanks, and good discussion.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-28 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-27 22:12 Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28  9:02 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-01-28  9:10   ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 12:26     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-01-28 12:42       ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 14:49         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-28 14:54 ` Rich Felker
2015-01-28 15:41   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-01-28 15:50     ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 16:03       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2015-01-28 16:12         ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 16:21           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-28 17:02             ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 17:09               ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 17:43                 ` Brent Cook
2015-01-28 18:12                   ` Daniel Cegiełka [this message]
2015-01-28 19:17                   ` Rich Felker
2015-01-28 19:33                     ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 20:20                     ` Brent Cook
2015-01-28 22:02                       ` Rich Felker
2015-01-28 22:59                         ` Josiah Worcester
2015-02-09 20:37                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-28 16:25         ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 16:01     ` Daniel Cegiełka
2015-01-28 15:41   ` Daniel Cegiełka

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