* [NTG-context] chronological TOC
@ 2024-01-26 22:46 jbf
2024-01-27 9:05 ` [NTG-context] " Henning Hraban Ramm
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I wonder if someone can point me in the right direction for a separate
TOC which needs to be in chronological order at the back of the book
(i.e. not in page number order, although I need the page numbers to show
up in the TOC. There is the normal TOC at the front of the book,
according to chapter titles.
I have succeeded in defining a separate TOC to place at the back, but
have not succeeded in the chronological order! Here is what I have done:
\definelist[chron][criterium=all,alternative=c]
At the back of the book:
\placelist[chron][criterium=all]
Then at an appropriate point after each \startchapter I have placed (as
an example):
\writetolist[chron]{}{{\bf 29 April 2017,} Speech, Panama City}
This gives me my list, but in page number order. How do I get the date
(e.g. 29 April 2017) to be the ordering factor in the list. I assume it
will be something to do with criterium, but am clueless at the moment on
how to indicate this.
Julian
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* [NTG-context] Re: chronological TOC
2024-01-26 22:46 [NTG-context] chronological TOC jbf
@ 2024-01-27 9:05 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2024-01-29 19:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2024-01-27 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 26.01.24 um 23:46 schrieb jbf:
> I wonder if someone can point me in the right direction for a separate
> TOC which needs to be in chronological order at the back of the book
> (i.e. not in page number order, although I need the page numbers to show
> up in the TOC. There is the normal TOC at the front of the book,
> according to chapter titles.
>
> I have succeeded in defining a separate TOC to place at the back, but
> have not succeeded in the chronological order! Here is what I have done:
>
> \definelist[chron][criterium=all,alternative=c]
>
> At the back of the book:
>
> \placelist[chron][criterium=all]
>
> Then at an appropriate point after each \startchapter I have placed (as
> an example):
>
> \writetolist[chron]{}{{\bf 29 April 2017,} Speech, Panama City}
>
> This gives me my list, but in page number order. How do I get the date
> (e.g. 29 April 2017) to be the ordering factor in the list. I assume it
> will be something to do with criterium, but am clueless at the moment on
> how to indicate this.
I don’t know if it works this way (the wizards will know a way), but for
special needs I’m (ab)using indexes:
just add something like \index[2017-04-29]{Speech, Panama City} to your
chapter command and setup the index at will.
Hraban
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* [NTG-context] Re: chronological TOC
2024-01-27 9:05 ` [NTG-context] " Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2024-01-29 19:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-01-29 20:12 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-01-29 20:45 ` jbf
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-01-29 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Henning Hraban Ramm
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 27.01.2024 um 10:05:
> Am 26.01.24 um 23:46 schrieb jbf:
>> I wonder if someone can point me in the right direction for a separate
>> TOC which needs to be in chronological order at the back of the book
>> (i.e. not in page number order, although I need the page numbers to
>> show up in the TOC. There is the normal TOC at the front of the book,
>> according to chapter titles.
>>
>> I have succeeded in defining a separate TOC to place at the back, but
>> have not succeeded in the chronological order! Here is what I have done:
>>
>> \definelist[chron][criterium=all,alternative=c]
>>
>> At the back of the book:
>>
>> \placelist[chron][criterium=all]
>>
>> Then at an appropriate point after each \startchapter I have placed
>> (as an example):
>>
>> \writetolist[chron]{}{{\bf 29 April 2017,} Speech, Panama City}
>>
>> This gives me my list, but in page number order. How do I get the date
>> (e.g. 29 April 2017) to be the ordering factor in the list. I assume
>> it will be something to do with criterium, but am clueless at the
>> moment on how to indicate this.
>
> I don’t know if it works this way (the wizards will know a way), but for
> special needs I’m (ab)using indexes:
> just add something like \index[2017-04-29]{Speech, Panama City} to your
> chapter command and setup the index at will.
Lists have a sort option but this is no use here because you can't use
the title to have a chronological sorted list.
\starttext
\placelist[section][order=title]
\section{Hans}
\section{Peter}
\section{Anton}
\stoptext
Using the register mechanism as you suggest seems to be the best option
in this case.
Wolfgang
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* [NTG-context] Re: chronological TOC
2024-01-29 19:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2024-01-29 20:12 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-01-29 20:45 ` jbf
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From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2024-01-29 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 29 Jan 2024, at 19:15, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 27.01.2024 um 10:05:
>> Am 26.01.24 um 23:46 schrieb jbf:
>>> I wonder if someone can point me in the right direction for a separate TOC which needs to be in chronological order at the back of the book (i.e. not in page number order, although I need the page numbers to show up in the TOC. There is the normal TOC at the front of the book, according to chapter titles.
>>>
>>> I have succeeded in defining a separate TOC to place at the back, but have not succeeded in the chronological order! Here is what I have done:
>>>
>>> \definelist[chron][criterium=all,alternative=c]
>>>
>>> At the back of the book:
>>>
>>> \placelist[chron][criterium=all]
>>>
>>> Then at an appropriate point after each \startchapter I have placed (as an example):
>>>
>>> \writetolist[chron]{}{{\bf 29 April 2017,} Speech, Panama City}
>>>
>>> This gives me my list, but in page number order. How do I get the date (e.g. 29 April 2017) to be the ordering factor in the list. I assume it will be something to do with criterium, but am clueless at the moment on how to indicate this.
>> I don’t know if it works this way (the wizards will know a way), but for special needs I’m (ab)using indexes:
>> just add something like \index[2017-04-29]{Speech, Panama City} to your chapter command and setup the index at will.
>
> Lists have a sort option but this is no use here because you can't use the title to have a chronological sorted list.
>
> \starttext
>
> \placelist[section][order=title]
>
> \section{Hans}
>
> \section{Peter}
>
> \section{Anton}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Using the register mechanism as you suggest seems to be the best option in this case.
The order= mechanism doesn't seem to work for \definelist lists as opposed to the built-in ones, viz:
\definelist[chron]
\starttext
\placelist[section][order=title]
\section{Hans}
\writetolist[chron]{}{Hans}
\section{Peter}
\writetolist[chron]{}{Peter}
\section{Anton}
\writetolist[chron]{}{Anton}
\placelist[chron][criterium=all,order=title]
\stoptext
—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK
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* [NTG-context] Re: chronological TOC
2024-01-29 19:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2024-01-29 20:12 ` Bruce Horrocks
@ 2024-01-29 20:45 ` jbf
2024-01-30 8:05 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: jbf @ 2024-01-29 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
And indeed this is the best solution I could find, though it obviously
meant that something like '29 April 2017' was no good for sorting on...
it has to be the US date format YY-MM-DD
Julian
On 30/1/24 06:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 27.01.2024 um 10:05:
>> Am 26.01.24 um 23:46 schrieb jbf:
>>> I wonder if someone can point me in the right direction for a
>>> separate TOC which needs to be in chronological order at the back of
>>> the book (i.e. not in page number order, although I need the page
>>> numbers to show up in the TOC. There is the normal TOC at the front
>>> of the book, according to chapter titles.
>>>
>>> I have succeeded in defining a separate TOC to place at the back,
>>> but have not succeeded in the chronological order! Here is what I
>>> have done:
>>>
>>> \definelist[chron][criterium=all,alternative=c]
>>>
>>> At the back of the book:
>>>
>>> \placelist[chron][criterium=all]
>>>
>>> Then at an appropriate point after each \startchapter I have placed
>>> (as an example):
>>>
>>> \writetolist[chron]{}{{\bf 29 April 2017,} Speech, Panama City}
>>>
>>> This gives me my list, but in page number order. How do I get the
>>> date (e.g. 29 April 2017) to be the ordering factor in the list. I
>>> assume it will be something to do with criterium, but am clueless at
>>> the moment on how to indicate this.
>>
>> I don’t know if it works this way (the wizards will know a way), but
>> for special needs I’m (ab)using indexes:
>> just add something like \index[2017-04-29]{Speech, Panama City} to
>> your chapter command and setup the index at will.
>
> Lists have a sort option but this is no use here because you can't use
> the title to have a chronological sorted list.
>
> \starttext
>
> \placelist[section][order=title]
>
> \section{Hans}
>
> \section{Peter}
>
> \section{Anton}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Using the register mechanism as you suggest seems to be the best
> option in this case.
>
> Wolfgang
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* [NTG-context] Re: chronological TOC
2024-01-29 20:45 ` jbf
@ 2024-01-30 8:05 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2024-01-30 12:08 ` BPJ
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2024-01-30 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am 29.01.24 um 21:45 schrieb jbf:
> And indeed this is the best solution I could find, though it obviously
> meant that something like '29 April 2017' was no good for sorting on...
> it has to be the US date format YY-MM-DD
How did you expect a simple sorting algorithm to sort by verbose dates?
BTW, YYYY-MM-DD is ISO 8601.
Hraban
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* [NTG-context] Re: chronological TOC
2024-01-30 8:05 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2024-01-30 12:08 ` BPJ
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Den tis 30 jan. 2024 09:06Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> skrev:
> Am 29.01.24 um 21:45 schrieb jbf:
> > And indeed this is the best solution I could find, though it obviously
> > meant that something like '29 April 2017' was no good for sorting on...
> > it has to be the US date format YY-MM-DD
>
> How did you expect a simple sorting algorithm to sort by verbose dates?
> BTW, YYYY-MM-DD is ISO 8601.
>
Just out of curiosity from an occasional user: is it possible in indices to
specify a separate sort key and displayed term as you can with makeindex? I
remember back in the nineties I used numeric sort keys for a Sanskrit index
where the letters were Latin (with lots of diacritics) but the sort order
was Indic (a, ā, i, ī, ... k, kh, g, gh, ...). I assigned a two-digit
"number" (01, 02, 03, ...) to each grapheme and the sort key consisted of
hyphen-separated such numbers.
> Hraban
>
>
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