[NTG-context] marginwidths

[NTG-context] marginwidths

[Hans van der Meer via ntg-context]

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I would like to change the width of the margins on the page.
In the MWE here, the pagelayout does not seem to obey the \setuplayout command. Why are the margins shown uneffected by \setuplayout?

yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer




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\setuppapersize[A4][A4]
\setuplayout[leftmargin=6cm,rightmargin=10cm]
\showframe
\starttext
\ConTeXt\space\contextversion\blank
before the \type{\starttext}:\crlf
\type{\setuplayout[leftmargin=6cm,rightmargin=10cm]}\crlf
make no difference in displayed frame
\showlayout
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: marginwidths

[Marco Patzer]

On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:17:29 +0100
Hans van der Meer via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> I would like to change the width of the margins on the page.
> In the MWE here, the pagelayout does not seem to obey the
> \setuplayout command. Why are the margins shown uneffected by
> \setuplayout?

Works as expected here. The margins have changed and \showlayout
gives you:

  \leftmarginwidth  =  6cm
  \rightmarginwidth = 10cm

Change the example to:

  \setuplayout
    [leftmargin=6mm,  %% mm, not cm
     rightmargin=10mm]

That way you better see the effect on the page.

Marco
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[NTG-context] Re: marginwidths

[Hans van der Meer via ntg-context]

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But changing the width of the section in the middle is not changing. Adapt \textwidth narrows the textwidth but does not allow wider margins.
see next example. So how to adapt the page to for example:
[leftmargin 40mm][middle what is left][rightmargin 60mm] 
this should leave 210-40-60=110mm in the middle, but doesn't.
The textwidth is narrowed but the margins refuse to obey their setting.

yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer

\setuppapersize[A4][A4]
\setuplayout[leftmargin=40mm,rightmargin=60mm,textwidth=110mm]
\showframe
\starttext
setuplayout: leftmargin=40mm, rightmargin=60mm, textwidth=110mm\crlf
abc\dotfill xyz\crlf
\stoptext



> On 22 Nov 2023, at 14:46, Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:17:29 +0100
> Hans van der Meer via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
>> I would like to change the width of the margins on the page.
>> In the MWE here, the pagelayout does not seem to obey the
>> \setuplayout command. Why are the margins shown uneffected by
>> \setuplayout?
> 
> Works as expected here. The margins have changed and \showlayout
> gives you:
> 
>  \leftmarginwidth  =  6cm
>  \rightmarginwidth = 10cm
> 
> Change the example to:
> 
>  \setuplayout
>    [leftmargin=6mm,  %% mm, not cm
>     rightmargin=10mm]
> 
> That way you better see the effect on the page.
> 
> Marco


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[NTG-context] Re: marginwidths

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Hans van der Meer via ntg-context schrieb am 22.11.2023 um 15:45:
> But changing the width of the section in the middle is not changing. 
> Adapt \textwidth narrows the textwidth but does not allow wider margins.
> see next example. So how to adapt the page to for example:
> [leftmargin 40mm][middle what is left][rightmargin 60mm]
> this should leave 210-40-60=110mm in the middle, but doesn't.
> The textwidth is narrowed but the margins refuse to obey their setting.
>
> yours sincerely
> dr. Hans van der Meer
>
> \setuppapersize[A4][A4]
> \setuplayout[leftmargin=40mm,rightmargin=60mm,textwidth=110mm]
> \showframe
> \starttext
> setuplayout: leftmargin=40mm, rightmargin=60mm, textwidth=110mm\crlf
> abc\dotfill xyz\crlf
> \stoptext

Alternative 1:

\setuplayout
   [backspace=40mm,
    width=110mm]

\showframe

\starttext
\page[empty]
\stoptext

Alternative 2:

\setuplayout
   [backspace=40mm,
    cutspace=60mm,
    width=middle]

\showframe

\starttext
\page[empty]
\stoptext

Wolfgang


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[NTG-context] Re: marginwidths

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 11/22/23 18:03, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Hans van der Meer via ntg-context schrieb am 22.11.2023 um 15:45:
>> But changing the width of the section in the middle is not changing.

dr. van der Meer,

your sample works for me if you add width=fit, such as in:

  \setuplayout[width=fit, leftmargin=6cm,rightmargin=10cm]
  \showframe
  \starttext
  \ConTeXt\space\contextversion\blank
  before the \type{\starttext}:\crlf
  \type{\setuplayout[leftmargin=6cm,rightmargin=10cm]}\crlf
  make no difference in displayed frame
  \showlayout
  \stoptext

I wonder whether I might be missing something, since this option is not
mentioned by Wolfgang.

Just in case it might help,

Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: marginwidths

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 03.12.2023 um 16:33:
> On 11/22/23 18:03, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Hans van der Meer via ntg-context schrieb am 22.11.2023 um 15:45:
>>> But changing the width of the section in the middle is not changing.
> dr. van der Meer,
>
> your sample works for me if you add width=fit, such as in:
>
>    \setuplayout[width=fit, leftmargin=6cm,rightmargin=10cm]
>    \showframe
>    \starttext
>    \ConTeXt\space\contextversion\blank
>    before the \type{\starttext}:\crlf
>    \type{\setuplayout[leftmargin=6cm,rightmargin=10cm]}\crlf
>    make no difference in displayed frame
>    \showlayout
>    \stoptext
>
> I wonder whether I might be missing something, since this option is not
> mentioned by Wolfgang.

IIRC width=fit is intended for presentation styles because it uses 
margin and edge values
to calculate the text area.

Wolfgang

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