\setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

\setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[jbf via ntg-context]

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I thought this should work, since \structurelistuservariable{author} 
works fine to call the author name into the TOC, but the same does not 
work for header texts it seems:

\setupheadertexts

[{\hfill\getmarking[\structurelistuservariable{author}]\hfill}][]

[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]

But it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?

Julian

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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 18.03.22 um 01:48 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
> I thought this should work, since \structurelistuservariable{author} 
> works fine to call the author name into the TOC, but the same does not 
> work for header texts it seems:
> 
> \setupheadertexts
> 
> [{\hfill\getmarking[\structurelistuservariable{author}]\hfill}][]
> 
> [{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
> 
> But it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?

The *list* variables work only in lists.

There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.

Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets 
expanded only once at the beginning.

Like in:

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]

\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups

\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups


HTH
Hraban
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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[jbf via ntg-context]

Off list for the moment. Late at night where I am. I will take a look at 
this more closely on the morrow. Thanks.

Julian

On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> \setupheadertexts[] % empty
> \setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
>
> \startsetups[text right]
> \rlap{\pagenumber}
> \hfill
> \getmarking[chapter]
> \hfill
> \llap{Un Nom}
> \stopsetups
>
> \startsetups[text left]
> \rlap{Una Person}
> \hfill
> \getmarking[section]
> \hfill
> \llap{\pagenumber}
> \stopsetups 
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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 18.03.22 um 10:13 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
> Off list for the moment. Late at night where I am. I will take a look at 
> this more closely on the morrow. Thanks.

You’re welcome.

BTW I answered with some German last time since I mixed up jbf and juh – 
the latter I know to be German.

Hraban
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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[jbf via ntg-context]

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I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt 
this to my situation:

One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I can 
see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that I want 
to influence.

But let me simplify my situation:

You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable 
(or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a 
variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A. 
uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either of 
these.

My current setting is:

\setupheadertexts   [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]   
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]

which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter 
title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter 
contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.

So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:

\startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}] 
\stopsetups

Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I 
tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly I'm 
wrong but don't appreciate why.

Julian

On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> The *list* variables work only in lists.
>
> There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
>
> Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets 
> expanded only once at the beginning.
>
> Like in:
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> \setupheadertexts[] % empty
> \setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
>
> \startsetups[text right]
> \rlap{\pagenumber}
> \hfill
> \getmarking[chapter]
> \hfill
> \llap{Un Nom}
> \stopsetups
>
> \startsetups[text left]
> \rlap{Una Person}
> \hfill
> \getmarking[section]
> \hfill
> \llap{\pagenumber}
> \stopsetups 

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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[jbf via ntg-context]

Sorry, of course I meant swap 'chapter' with \setups{contributor}

J

On 19/3/22 13:16, jbf wrote:
> Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'?
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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Hi Julian,

you’re right, the example didn’t do what you wanted, and it didn’t 
intend to.

Using \getmarking you can get a section title (or another “mark”), you 
can’t combine it with the variable commands, and you don’t need it for 
your case.

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking isn’t really helpful 
since there’s no example with section titles, but it shows you can also 
get previous or next “marks”.

BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs. 
\namedstructurevariable...

Hraban


Am 19.03.22 um 03:16 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
> I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt 
> this to my situation:
> 
> One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I can 
> see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that I want 
> to influence.
> 
> But let me simplify my situation:
> 
> You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable 
> (or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a 
> variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A. 
> uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either of 
> these.
> 
> My current setting is:
> 
> \setupheadertexts   [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]   
> [{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
> 
> which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter 
> title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter 
> contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
> 
> So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
> 
> \startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}] 
> \stopsetups
> 
> Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I 
> tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly I'm 
> wrong but don't appreciate why.
> 
> Julian
> 
> On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>> The *list* variables work only in lists.
>>
>> There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
>>
>> Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets 
>> expanded only once at the beginning.
>>
>> Like in:
>>
>> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>> \setupheadertexts[] % empty
>> \setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
>>
>> \startsetups[text right]
>> \rlap{\pagenumber}
>> \hfill
>> \getmarking[chapter]
>> \hfill
>> \llap{Un Nom}
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> \startsetups[text left]
>> \rlap{Una Person}
>> \hfill
>> \getmarking[section]
>> \hfill
>> \llap{\pagenumber}
>> \stopsetups 
> 
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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/19/2022 10:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

> BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs. 
> \namedstructurevariable...
the first is the current, the second a specific one ... so current can 
be subsubsubsubsubsection but with named you can still get the current 
chapter

BTW, best write it down (your book) some place as it can come in handy ...

Hans


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Re: \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors

[jbf via ntg-context]

Thanks for the bits and pieces to the puzzle. I'll do my best to make 
sense of them and solve the problem.

Julian

On 19/3/22 20:18, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> you’re right, the example didn’t do what you wanted, and it didn’t 
> intend to.
>
> Using \getmarking you can get a section title (or another “mark”), you 
> can’t combine it with the variable commands, and you don’t need it for 
> your case.
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking isn’t really helpful 
> since there’s no example with section titles, but it shows you can 
> also get previous or next “marks”.
>
> BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs. 
> \namedstructurevariable...
>
> Hraban
>
>
> Am 19.03.22 um 03:16 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
>> I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt 
>> this to my situation:
>>
>> One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I 
>> can see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that 
>> I want to influence.
>>
>> But let me simplify my situation:
>>
>> You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable 
>> (or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a 
>> variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A. 
>> uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either 
>> of these.
>>
>> My current setting is:
>>
>> \setupheadertexts   [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][] 
>> [{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
>>
>> which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter 
>> title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter 
>> contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
>>
>> So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
>>
>> \startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}] 
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I 
>> tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly 
>> I'm wrong but don't appreciate why.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>>> The *list* variables work only in lists.
>>>
>>> There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
>>>
>>> Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets 
>>> expanded only once at the beginning.
>>>
>>> Like in:
>>>
>>> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>>> \setupheadertexts[] % empty
>>> \setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
>>>
>>> \startsetups[text right]
>>> \rlap{\pagenumber}
>>> \hfill
>>> \getmarking[chapter]
>>> \hfill
>>> \llap{Un Nom}
>>> \stopsetups
>>>
>>> \startsetups[text left]
>>> \rlap{Una Person}
>>> \hfill
>>> \getmarking[section]
>>> \hfill
>>> \llap{\pagenumber}
>>> \stopsetups 
>>
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>>
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