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From: Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: can we do binding correction?
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:50:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c46eeaa-35c5-4fea-b1f4-b779b3deb9b7@fiee.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGhDZhAgcYGYkp6duqwEpSYptgLew3L=URhZDxv8Hmi5pmiJow@mail.gmail.com>


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Hi Andrés, thank you!

Am 20.03.24 um 06:07 schrieb Andres Conrado Montoya:
> I have found with experience that a formula to calculate the binding 
> correction for a saddle stitch binding, not more than 4 pages in a 
> signature (only one fold in the middle) usually is 1/2 the 
> circumference of a circle with radius /r/, being /r/ the thickness of 
> the paper times the amount of physical signatures. Something like: 
> \frac{π \times t \times s}{2}. I have not tried a formula for more 
> folds in a signature.
>
> The thing is, you have to recalculate for each signature fold. The 
> innermost will have displacement zero, the second one a little bit 
> more, the third a little bit more, and on and on until we reach the 
> outermost signature.
>
> However, it is necessary to say that unless you are using a 
> particularly thick paper, or you are using too many pages for a saddle 
> stitch bind (my personal and professional opinion would be no more 
> than 80, but better 60), the displacement is usually negligible.
>
> For example, let's say the paper thickness is 0.1 mm (which is 0.0001 
> meters) and there are 40 pages in 10 signatures. The radius would be 
> 0.0001 meters per signature * 10 signatures = 0.001 meters. Then, half 
> the circumference would be 1/2 * 3.14159 * 0.001 meters ≈  0.0016 
> meters or 1.6mm at the last signature. Unless there was a displacement 
> of more than, say, 4 mm, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
>
E.g. our Bonn architectural guides 
(https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de/reihen/afb/) are saddle-stitched 
booklets, usually have 60 pages and are printed on 115g coated paper. 
With coated paper you can’t really derivate the thickness from grammage. 
The horizontal page shift is visible if you look carefully. But since 
the paper is not very transparent, you only see the problem if you look 
for it. I don’t arrange the pages myself, don’t know the signature size, 
and I can’t request specials, since we must print cheaply to keep the 
low price (had to raise it from 5 to 8 € anyway, half of it goes to the 
wholesaler).

Hraban


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-20  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-20  5:07 Andres Conrado Montoya
2024-03-20  8:50 ` Hraban Ramm [this message]
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2024-03-17 21:48 [NTG-context] " Hraban Ramm
2024-03-17 22:54 ` [NTG-context] " Wolfgang Schuster
2024-03-18 16:35   ` Hraban Ramm
2024-03-19 16:01     ` Willi Egger
2024-03-19 20:56       ` Hraban Ramm
2024-03-19 22:42         ` Willi Egger
2024-03-20  6:56           ` Hraban Ramm

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