Clickable url problem with \useurl and \url

Clickable url problem with \useurl and \url

[Rik Kabel via ntg-context]

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Hello List,

I notice an inconsistency in the clickable area when using \useurl. With 
the following example, both the \from and the \url are clickable in some 
lines (as noted iin the value of \from) but in others, the \from is 
clickable but not the \url.

It does seem sensitive to the urlL, but I cannot see a pattern.

Example:

    \setupinteraction [state=start]
    \useurl[earlBA] [https://www.bartleby.com/sv/welcome.html]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlPD] [https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlWC] [https://www.worldcat.org/]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlFC] [https://www.futilitycloset.com/]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlQU] [http://www.quote-unquote.org.uk/]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlAL] [https://www.aldaily.com/]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlTL] [http://stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/]
                  [] [Not clickable]
    \useurl[earlQI] [https://quoteinvestigator.com/]
                  [] [Clickable]
    \useurl[earlLH] [https://languagehat.com/]
                  [] [Clickable]
    \useurl[earlSF] [https://stancarey.wordpress.com/]
                  [] [Clickable]
    \starttext
    \from[earlLH]  (\url[earlLH]) \par
    \from[earlQI]  (\url[earlQI]) \par
    \from[earlFC]  (\url[earlFC]) \par
    \from[earlWC]  (\url[earlWC]) \par
    \from[earlQU]  (\url[earlQU]) \par
    \from[earlAL]  (\url[earlAL]) \par
    \from[earlSF]  (\url[earlSF]) \par
    \from[earlBA]  (\url[earlBA]) \par
    \from[earlPD]  (\url[earlPD]) \par
    \from[earlTL]  (\url[earlTL]) \par
    \stoptext

Should I use something other than \url[earlXX] here to get the clickable 
literal url from useurl?

-- 
Rik Kabel

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Re: Clickable url problem with \useurl and \url

[Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context]

Hi,

> On 12 Oct 2021, at 04:30, Rik Kabel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I notice an inconsistency in the clickable area when using \useurl. With the following example, both the \from and the \url are clickable in some lines (as noted iin the value of \from) but in others, the \from is clickable but not the \url.
> 
> It does seem sensitive to the urlL, but I cannot see a pattern.

It is the pdf viewer program that automatically interprets the \url-produced text and 'invents' a link, it is not
ConTeXt itself. The exact rules may therefore vary depending on the pdf viewer you use. 

In Apple's Preview, all items are in fact clickable. But only \from produces actual pdf hyperlink annotations.

> Should I use something other than \url[earlXX] here to get the clickable literal url from useurl?

This, maybe

\goto{\url[earlLH]}[url(earlLH)]

(perhaps wrapped in a short macro)

Best wishes,
Taco

— 
Taco Hoekwater              E: taco@bittext.nl
genderfluid (all pronouns)



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Re: Clickable url problem with \useurl and \url

[Rik Kabel via ntg-context]

On 10/12/2021 03:44, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On 12 Oct 2021, at 04:30, Rik Kabel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I notice an inconsistency in the clickable area when using \useurl. With the following example, both the \from and the \url are clickable in some lines (as noted iin the value of \from) but in others, the \from is clickable but not the \url.
>>
>> It does seem sensitive to the urlL, but I cannot see a pattern.
> It is the pdf viewer program that automatically interprets the \url-produced text and 'invents' a link, it is not
> ConTeXt itself. The exact rules may therefore vary depending on the pdf viewer you use.
>
> In Apple's Preview, all items are in fact clickable. But only \from produces actual pdf hyperlink annotations.
>
>> Should I use something other than \url[earlXX] here to get the clickable literal url from useurl?
> This, maybe
>
> \goto{\url[earlLH]}[url(earlLH)]
>
> (perhaps wrapped in a short macro)
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
> —
> Taco Hoekwater              E: taco@bittext.nl
> genderfluid (all pronouns)
>
Indeed, that is the issue. I use Sumatra by default, but I see different 
results with other viewers. I will follow up, if needed, elsewhere.

And yes, for consistency I will look at something based on \goto to make 
explicit what should and should not be clickable.

Thank you for the explanation and suggestion.

-- 
Rik

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