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* Historic ligatures with lucidaot
@ 2020-01-16 21:52 Otared Kavian
  2020-01-16 22:21 ` Henri Menke
  2020-01-16 23:04 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2020-01-16 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,

How can I add the so-called « historic ligatures », such as in st, ct, to a font (assuming it has that feature)?

For instance

\setupbodyfont[lucidaot]

\starttext

construction

\stoptext

does not show the historic ligature in « st » and in « ct »: how can I get them?

Best regards: OK
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* Re: Historic ligatures with lucidaot
  2020-01-16 21:52 Historic ligatures with lucidaot Otared Kavian
@ 2020-01-16 22:21 ` Henri Menke
  2020-01-16 22:44   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2020-01-16 23:04 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Henri Menke @ 2020-01-16 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1/17/20 10:52 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> How can I add the so-called « historic ligatures », such as in st, ct, to a font (assuming it has that feature)?
> 
> For instance
> 
> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> construction
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> does not show the historic ligature in « st » and in « ct »: how can I get them?

For these your font needs the hlig feature, which Lucida doesn't seem to have.

$ otfinfo -f "$(mtxrun --find-file LucidaBrightOT.otf)"
liga	Standard Ligatures
mark	Mark Positioning
mkmk	Mark to Mark Positioning
onum	Oldstyle Figures
smcp	Small Capitals

Cheers, Henri

> 
> Best regards: OK
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* Re: Historic ligatures with lucidaot
  2020-01-16 22:21 ` Henri Menke
@ 2020-01-16 22:44   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-01-16 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Am 2020-01-16 um 23:21 schrieb Henri Menke <henrimenke@gmail.com>:
>> does not show the historic ligature in « st » and in « ct »: how can I get them?
> 
> For these your font needs the hlig feature, which Lucida doesn't seem to have.

Some fonts have them in dlig.

Hraban
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* Re: Historic ligatures with lucidaot
  2020-01-16 21:52 Historic ligatures with lucidaot Otared Kavian
  2020-01-16 22:21 ` Henri Menke
@ 2020-01-16 23:04 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-01-16 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Otared Kavian

On 1/16/2020 10:52 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> How can I add the so-called « historic ligatures », such as in st, ct, to a font (assuming it has that feature)?
> 
> For instance
> 
> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> construction
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> does not show the historic ligature in « st » and in « ct »: how can I get them?
Lucida is a rather modern font. It has ligature, some are language 
dependent. But no historic ones. Btw, an interesting property of lucida 
is that in needs no kerning which is quite an achievement.

 >mtxrun --script font --list --info --pattern=lucidabrightot
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       | mapping   : lucidabrightot
mtx-fonts       | fontname  : lucidabrightot
mtx-fonts       | fullname  : lucidabrightot
mtx-fonts       | filename  : LucidaBrightOT.otf
mtx-fonts       | family    : lucidabrightot
mtx-fonts       | weight    : normal
mtx-fonts       | style     : normal
mtx-fonts       | width     : normal
mtx-fonts       | variant   : normal
mtx-fonts       | fweight   : conflict: regular
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       | gpos features:
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       |   feature  script   languages
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       |   mark     dflt     dflt
mtx-fonts       |            latn     dflt
mtx-fonts       |   mkmk     dflt     dflt
mtx-fonts       |            latn     dflt
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       | gsub features:
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       |   feature  script   languages
mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       |   liga     dflt     dflt
mtx-fonts       |            latn     dflt nld trk
mtx-fonts       |   locl     latn     nld trk
mtx-fonts       |   onum     dflt     dflt
mtx-fonts       |            latn     dflt nld trk
mtx-fonts       |   smcp     dflt     dflt
mtx-fonts       |            latn     dflt nld trk
mtx-fonts       |

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