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* [NTG-context] what about "textdisplay"?
@ 2024-04-01 15:19 Henning Hraban Ramm
  2024-04-01 16:21 ` [NTG-context] " Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2024-04-01 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to 
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.

I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:

$ context --find=textdisplay
mtx-context     | 
…/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/ontarget/ontarget-profiles.tex
mtx-context     |
mtx-context     |   196  \starttextdisplay
…
mtx-context     |   277  \stoptextdisplay
mtx-context     |
mtx-context     | 
…/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/ontarget/ontarget-standardize.tex
mtx-context     |
mtx-context     |   888  \starttextdisplay
…
mtx-context     |   941  \stoptextdisplay
mtx-context     |

These two documents use it and compile flawlessly.

What’s on?

Hraban
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* [NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
  2024-04-01 15:19 [NTG-context] what about "textdisplay"? Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2024-04-01 16:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2024-04-01 16:29   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-04-01 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
> A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to 
> \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.

My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the 
source of a presentation from him.

> I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:

The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.

> $ context --find=textdisplay
> [...]
> 
> These two documents use it and compile flawlessly.

%%%% begin \definetextdisplay
                      1     2         3
\definetextdisplay [...] [...] [..,..=..,..]
                           OPT       OPT

1  NAME
2  NAME
3  inherits: \setuptextdisplay
%%%% end \definetextdisplay

%%%% begin \setuptextdisplay
                       1           2
\setuptextdisplay [...,...] [..,..=..,..]
                      OPT

1  NAME
2  before = COMMAND
    after  = COMMAND
    factor = NUMBER
%%%% end \setuptextdisplay

%%%% begin \starttextdisplay
                         *
\starttextdisplay [..,..=..,..] ... \stoptextdisplay
                        OPT

*  inherits: \setuptextdisplay
%%%% end \starttextdisplay

Wolfgang
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* [NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
  2024-04-01 16:21 ` [NTG-context] " Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2024-04-01 16:29   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2024-04-01 16:54     ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2024-04-01 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
>> A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to 
>> \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
> 
> My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the 
> source of a presentation from him.

Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.

>> I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
> 
> The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.

Thank you!

So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.

Hraban

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* [NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
  2024-04-01 16:29   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2024-04-01 16:54     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2024-04-02  5:44       ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-04-01 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
> Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
>>> A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to 
>>> \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
>>
>> My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the 
>> source of a presentation from him.
>
> Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.

Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar effect 
as \starttextdisplay.

\usemodule[visual]

\setupfloat[figure][location=left]

\starttext

\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}

\blank[2*line]

\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}

\blank[2*line]

\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}

\stoptext

>>> I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
>>
>> The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.
>
> Thank you!
>
> So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.

AFAIR the find option searches only the manual sources.

Wolfgang

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* [NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
  2024-04-01 16:54     ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2024-04-02  5:44       ` Henning Hraban Ramm
  2024-04-02  8:28         ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2024-04-02  5:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Am 01.04.24 um 18:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
>> Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
>>>> A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to 
>>>> \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
>>>
>>> My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the 
>>> source of a presentation from him.
>>
>> Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
> 
> Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar effect 
> as \starttextdisplay.
> 
> \usemodule[visual]
> 
> \setupfloat[figure][location=left]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \fakewords{10}{20}
> \startlinecorrection
> \fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
> \stoplinecorrection
> \fakewords{10}{20}
> 
> \blank[2*line]
> 
> \fakewords{10}{20}
> \startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
> \fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
> \stopplacefigure
> \fakewords{10}{20}
> 
> \blank[2*line]
> 
> \fakewords{10}{20}
> \starttextdisplay
> \fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
> \stoptextdisplay
> \fakewords{10}{20}
> 
> \stoptext

Thank you!
And when would you suggest what?

A float I’d use only if I need caption/numbering or the floating feature.

When I tried line correction, it never helped; probably I used it wrong 
(e.g. around section titles).

>>>> I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
>>>
>>> The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.
> 
> AFAIR the find option searches only the manual sources.

Looks like it. So I should use grep (mtxrun --script grep).

Hraban

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* [NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
  2024-04-02  5:44       ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2024-04-02  8:28         ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2024-04-02  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: Hans Hagen

On 4/2/2024 7:44 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 01.04.24 um 18:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
>>> Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
>>>>> A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to 
>>>>> \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the 
>>>> source of a presentation from him.
>>>
>>> Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
>>
>> Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar 
>> effect as \starttextdisplay.
>>
>> \usemodule[visual]
>>
>> \setupfloat[figure][location=left]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \fakewords{10}{20}
>> \startlinecorrection
>> \fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
>> \stoplinecorrection
>> \fakewords{10}{20}
>>
>> \blank[2*line]
>>
>> \fakewords{10}{20}
>> \startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
>> \fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
>> \stopplacefigure
>> \fakewords{10}{20}
>>
>> \blank[2*line]
>>
>> \fakewords{10}{20}
>> \starttextdisplay
>> \fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
>> \stoptextdisplay
>> \fakewords{10}{20}
>>
>> \stoptext
> 
> Thank you!
> And when would you suggest what?
> 
> A float I’d use only if I need caption/numbering or the floating feature.
> 
> When I tried line correction, it never helped; probably I used it wrong 
> (e.g. around section titles).

linecorrection is older, textdisplay newer and both are mainly meant to 
position boxed content (like images) in a way so that spacing looks 
acceptable ... they are vboxes with spacing around them so not meant for 
e.g. section heads or whatever text; it's for images, framed stuff, 
maybe bTABLE etc

Hans

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