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* Why are endnotes not working with ConTeXt-SBL?
       [not found] <1791655590.770843.1640455439313.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
@ 2021-12-25 18:03 ` Joel via ntg-context
  2021-12-25 18:11   ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Joel via ntg-context @ 2021-12-25 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: Joel


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I am using the ConTeXt-SBL package for citations. I need to move my footnotes to the end of each article.

According to the manual, I can suppress the placement of footnotes using two lines of code. I've added these to my minimal working code, placing \setupnote[footnote][location=none] in the header and  \placenotes[footnote] where I want the endnotes to appear. It complains this error:
"Undefined control sequence \doifendswithpunctelse"
What did I do wrong?
--Joel
Code follows:

\usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
\startbuffer [bib]

@Article{na2006,
title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
year={2006},
journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral Resources},
volume={6},
number={1},
location={Socorro, New Mexico}
}

@Book{clark1989,
author = {Clark, William},
title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
year = {1989},
address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
isbn = {9780937206126}
}

\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]

\setupbtx[dataset=default]
\usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
\setupbtx[sbl]

\setupnote[footnote][location=none]

\starttext

   \input knuth
    \cite[clark1989]

    \placenotes[footnote]

    
    \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
        \placelistofpublications
    \stopchapter

\stoptext

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* Re: Why are endnotes not working with ConTeXt-SBL?
  2021-12-25 18:03 ` Why are endnotes not working with ConTeXt-SBL? Joel via ntg-context
@ 2021-12-25 18:11   ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-12-25 20:34     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-12-25 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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Joel,

You may not have done anything wrong; this may be an issue with
ConTeXt-SBL. In my code for the btx:sbl:cite:footnote setup in
publ-imp-sbl.mkvi, I added a comment to this effect:

```
\startsetups btx:sbl:cite:footnote
  \removeunwantedspaces

\doifinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
  \begingroup
  \letbtxparameter{punct}\empty % don't pass the trailing punctuation down
to the inline setup
  \let\doifendswithpunctelse\btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse % why is this
necessary? For some reason, \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse is not
recognized within the footnote environment...
  \startfootnote
    \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}}% capitalize the first word in
the footnote (needed to render "Ibid." and "Idem" correctly)
    % Add a closing period, unless the righttext ends with punctuation
    \doifendswithpunctelse{\btxparameter{righttext}} {
      \removeunwantedspaces
    } {
      \removeunwantedspaces
      \btxperiod
    }
  \stopfootnote
  \endgroup

\doifnotinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
\stopsetups
```

I define the \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse macro earlier in the module.
Initially, when I tried to invoke this macro within the \startfootnote ...
\stopfootnote environment (to conditionally add a period at the end of a
footnote citation if it does not have a righttext ending with punctuation),
I got the same error you got, but for \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse. I
wasn't sure why this was happening, so I tried defining a new
\doifendswithpunctelse macro. Unfortunately, based on your e-mail, it looks
like this doesn't actually fix the problem.

Any help from other developers would be appreciated here! Unfortunately, I
don't have a MWE replicating the problem on hand at the moment.

Joey

On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
wrote:

> I am using the ConTeXt-SBL package for citations. I need to move my
> footnotes to the end of each article.
>
> According to the manual, I can suppress the placement of footnotes using
> two lines of code. I've added these to my minimal working code, placing \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
> in the header and \placenotes[footnote] where I want the endnotes to
> appear. It complains this error:
>
> "Undefined control sequence \doifendswithpunctelse"
>
> What did I do wrong?
>
> --Joel
>
> Code follows:
>
> \usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
> \startbuffer [bib]
>
> @Article{na2006,
> title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
> year={2006},
> journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
> publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral
> Resources},
> volume={6},
> number={1},
> location={Socorro, New Mexico}
> }
>
> @Book{clark1989,
> author = {Clark, William},
> title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
> publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
> year = {1989},
> address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
> isbn = {9780937206126}
> }
>
> \stopbuffer
>
> \usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]
>
> \setupbtx[dataset=default]
> \usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
> \setupbtx[sbl]
>
> \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
>
> \starttext
>
>    \input knuth
>     \cite[clark1989]
>
>     \placenotes[footnote]
>
>
>     \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
>         \placelistofpublications
>     \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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>
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>

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* Re: Why are endnotes not working with ConTeXt-SBL?
  2021-12-25 18:11   ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-12-25 20:34     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-12-26 21:57       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-12-25 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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A reasonable solution for the time being would be to check if the
righttext argument is empty, and add a final period in the footnote only if
it is not (with the assumption being that the user would provide
punctuation in any righttext for footnote/endnote citations). I've pushed
the following change to the GitHub repo, if you'd like to pull and use it:

```
% Inline footnote citation setup (with intelligent trailing punctuation
replacement)
\startsetups btx:sbl:cite:footnote
  \removeunwantedspaces

\doifinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
  \begingroup
  \letbtxparameter{punct}\empty % don't pass the trailing punctuation down
to the inline setup
  \startfootnote
    \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}}% capitalize the first word in
the footnote (needed to render "Ibid." and "Idem" correctly)
    % Add a closing period if there is no righttext
    \doif{\btxparameter{righttext}}{\empty} {
      \btxperiod
    }
  \stopfootnote
  \endgroup

\doifnotinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
\stopsetups
```

This should allow your script to compile, but unfortunately, it doesn't
seem to make endnotes work, at least not when I try it. For some reason,
the macro \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}} is expanding to nothing
inside the \startfootnote ... \stopfootnote environment. I have no idea why
this is happening, so any ideas are appreciated.

Joey

On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 1:11 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Joel,
>
> You may not have done anything wrong; this may be an issue with
> ConTeXt-SBL. In my code for the btx:sbl:cite:footnote setup in
> publ-imp-sbl.mkvi, I added a comment to this effect:
>
> ```
> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:footnote
>   \removeunwantedspaces
>
> \doifinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
>   \begingroup
>   \letbtxparameter{punct}\empty % don't pass the trailing punctuation down
> to the inline setup
>   \let\doifendswithpunctelse\btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse % why is this
> necessary? For some reason, \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse is not
> recognized within the footnote environment...
>   \startfootnote
>     \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}}% capitalize the first word in
> the footnote (needed to render "Ibid." and "Idem" correctly)
>     % Add a closing period, unless the righttext ends with punctuation
>     \doifendswithpunctelse{\btxparameter{righttext}} {
>       \removeunwantedspaces
>     } {
>       \removeunwantedspaces
>       \btxperiod
>     }
>   \stopfootnote
>   \endgroup
>
> \doifnotinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
> \stopsetups
> ```
>
> I define the \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse macro earlier in the module.
> Initially, when I tried to invoke this macro within the \startfootnote ...
> \stopfootnote environment (to conditionally add a period at the end of a
> footnote citation if it does not have a righttext ending with punctuation),
> I got the same error you got, but for \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse. I
> wasn't sure why this was happening, so I tried defining a new
> \doifendswithpunctelse macro. Unfortunately, based on your e-mail, it looks
> like this doesn't actually fix the problem.
>
> Any help from other developers would be appreciated here! Unfortunately, I
> don't have a MWE replicating the problem on hand at the moment.
>
> Joey
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> I am using the ConTeXt-SBL package for citations. I need to move my
>> footnotes to the end of each article.
>>
>> According to the manual, I can suppress the placement of footnotes using
>> two lines of code. I've added these to my minimal working code, placing \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
>> in the header and \placenotes[footnote] where I want the endnotes to
>> appear. It complains this error:
>>
>> "Undefined control sequence \doifendswithpunctelse"
>>
>> What did I do wrong?
>>
>> --Joel
>>
>> Code follows:
>>
>> \usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
>> \startbuffer [bib]
>>
>> @Article{na2006,
>> title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
>> year={2006},
>> journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
>> publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral
>> Resources},
>> volume={6},
>> number={1},
>> location={Socorro, New Mexico}
>> }
>>
>> @Book{clark1989,
>> author = {Clark, William},
>> title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
>> publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
>> year = {1989},
>> address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
>> isbn = {9780937206126}
>> }
>>
>> \stopbuffer
>>
>> \usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]
>>
>> \setupbtx[dataset=default]
>> \usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
>> \setupbtx[sbl]
>>
>> \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>>    \input knuth
>>     \cite[clark1989]
>>
>>     \placenotes[footnote]
>>
>>
>>     \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
>>         \placelistofpublications
>>     \stopchapter
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
>> the Wiki!
>>
>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>

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* Re: Why are endnotes not working with ConTeXt-SBL?
  2021-12-25 20:34     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-12-26 21:57       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-12-26 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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This actually seems to be rooted in a more general problem with the
publications support module. Why does invoking the fastsetup for citations
work within the default footnote setup, but not within endnotes flushed via
\placenotes[footnote]? If I modify the original MWE to use ConTeXt's
default btx rendering, I get the same error:

```
\startbuffer [bib]

@Book{clark1989,
author = {Clark, William},
title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
year = {1989},
address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
isbn = {9780937206126}
}

\stopbuffer

\usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]

\setupbtx[dataset=default]

\setupnote[footnote][location=none] % commenting out this line will produce
footnotes that expand the citation correctly

\starttext

   \input knuth
    \cite[alternative=footnote][clark1989]
    \page
    \placenotes[footnote]

    \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
        \placelistofpublications
    \stopchapter

\stoptext
```

If it helps, the relevant code in publications support is the following
block in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:

```
\startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
    \startfootnote
        \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
    \stopfootnote
\stopsetups
```

The \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry} doesn't expand to anything if the footnote
is flushed as an endnote via \placenotes[footnote]. Does anyone have any
idea why this happens and how to fix it?

Joey

On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 3:34 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> A reasonable solution for the time being would be to check if the
> righttext argument is empty, and add a final period in the footnote only if
> it is not (with the assumption being that the user would provide
> punctuation in any righttext for footnote/endnote citations). I've pushed
> the following change to the GitHub repo, if you'd like to pull and use it:
>
> ```
> % Inline footnote citation setup (with intelligent trailing punctuation
> replacement)
> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:footnote
>   \removeunwantedspaces
>
> \doifinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
>   \begingroup
>   \letbtxparameter{punct}\empty % don't pass the trailing punctuation down
> to the inline setup
>   \startfootnote
>     \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}}% capitalize the first word in
> the footnote (needed to render "Ibid." and "Idem" correctly)
>     % Add a closing period if there is no righttext
>     \doif{\btxparameter{righttext}}{\empty} {
>       \btxperiod
>     }
>   \stopfootnote
>   \endgroup
>
> \doifnotinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
> \stopsetups
> ```
>
> This should allow your script to compile, but unfortunately, it doesn't
> seem to make endnotes work, at least not when I try it. For some reason,
> the macro \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}} is expanding to nothing
> inside the \startfootnote ... \stopfootnote environment. I have no idea why
> this is happening, so any ideas are appreciated.
>
> Joey
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 1:11 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Joel,
>>
>> You may not have done anything wrong; this may be an issue with
>> ConTeXt-SBL. In my code for the btx:sbl:cite:footnote setup in
>> publ-imp-sbl.mkvi, I added a comment to this effect:
>>
>> ```
>> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:footnote
>>   \removeunwantedspaces
>>
>> \doifinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
>>   \begingroup
>>   \letbtxparameter{punct}\empty % don't pass the trailing punctuation
>> down to the inline setup
>>   \let\doifendswithpunctelse\btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse % why is this
>> necessary? For some reason, \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse is not
>> recognized within the footnote environment...
>>   \startfootnote
>>     \Word{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:inline}}% capitalize the first word in
>> the footnote (needed to render "Ibid." and "Idem" correctly)
>>     % Add a closing period, unless the righttext ends with punctuation
>>     \doifendswithpunctelse{\btxparameter{righttext}} {
>>       \removeunwantedspaces
>>     } {
>>       \removeunwantedspaces
>>       \btxperiod
>>     }
>>   \stopfootnote
>>   \endgroup
>>
>> \doifnotinstring{\btxparameter{punct}}{\btxparameter{autopunctuation}}{\btxparameter{punct}}
>> \stopsetups
>> ```
>>
>> I define the \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse macro earlier in the module.
>> Initially, when I tried to invoke this macro within the \startfootnote ...
>> \stopfootnote environment (to conditionally add a period at the end of a
>> footnote citation if it does not have a righttext ending with punctuation),
>> I got the same error you got, but for \btx_sbl_doifendswithpunctelse. I
>> wasn't sure why this was happening, so I tried defining a new
>> \doifendswithpunctelse macro. Unfortunately, based on your e-mail, it looks
>> like this doesn't actually fix the problem.
>>
>> Any help from other developers would be appreciated here! Unfortunately,
>> I don't have a MWE replicating the problem on hand at the moment.
>>
>> Joey
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am using the ConTeXt-SBL package for citations. I need to move my
>>> footnotes to the end of each article.
>>>
>>> According to the manual, I can suppress the placement of footnotes using
>>> two lines of code. I've added these to my minimal working code, placing \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
>>> in the header and \placenotes[footnote] where I want the endnotes to
>>> appear. It complains this error:
>>>
>>> "Undefined control sequence \doifendswithpunctelse"
>>>
>>> What did I do wrong?
>>>
>>> --Joel
>>>
>>> Code follows:
>>>
>>> \usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
>>> \startbuffer [bib]
>>>
>>> @Article{na2006,
>>> title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
>>> year={2006},
>>> journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
>>> publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral
>>> Resources},
>>> volume={6},
>>> number={1},
>>> location={Socorro, New Mexico}
>>> }
>>>
>>> @Book{clark1989,
>>> author = {Clark, William},
>>> title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
>>> publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
>>> year = {1989},
>>> address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
>>> isbn = {9780937206126}
>>> }
>>>
>>> \stopbuffer
>>>
>>> \usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]
>>>
>>> \setupbtx[dataset=default]
>>> \usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
>>> \setupbtx[sbl]
>>>
>>> \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>>    \input knuth
>>>     \cite[clark1989]
>>>
>>>     \placenotes[footnote]
>>>
>>>
>>>     \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
>>>         \placelistofpublications
>>>     \stopchapter
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>>> to the Wiki!
>>>
>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>

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