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* mathml <mtext> behaviour
@ 2014-05-18  7:25 Hans van der Meer
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2014-05-18  7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The short example below typeset with

 \usemodule[mathml]
 \starttext
 \typebuffer
 \blank
 \processxmlbuffer
 \stoptext

and "ConTeXt  ver: 2014.04.04 00:08 MKIV beta" shows that the <mtext> element does not honour the tags within. This severely restricts the presentation. 
Can this be remedied?

Hans van der Meer


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* Re: mathml <mtext> behaviour
  2014-05-18 15:57   ` Meer, H. van der
@ 2014-05-18 16:20     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-05-18 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 5/18/2014 5:57 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote:
>
> On 18 mei 2014, at 17:26, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl
> <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2014 10:05 AM, H. van der Meer wrote:
>>> Sorry if this question reaches you twice, but the first time I used an
>>> email address not registered with this newsgroup.
>>>
>>> The short example below typeset with
>>>
>>> \usemodule[mathml]
>>> \starttext
>>> \typebuffer
>>> \blank
>>> \processxmlbuffer
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> and "ConTeXt  ver: 2014.04.04 00:08 MKIV beta" shows that the <mtext>
>>> element does not honour the tags within. This severely restricts the
>>> presentation.
>>
>
>
>> So what makes you think these tags should be recognized and
>> interpreted as being 'bold'?
>
> see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML
>
>
>       Presentation MathML
>
> ....
>
> Note however that these token elements may be used as extension points,
> allowing markup in host languages. MathML in HTML5
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5> allows most inline HTML markup in
> mtext, and
>
>   * |<mtext><b>non</b> zero</mtext>|
>
> is conforming, with the HTML markup being used within the MathML to mark
> up the embedded text (making the first word bold in this example).

sure, but who says we're in html5 when we see mathml an dif not, who 
says that <b> reflects bold then so it can never be default

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* Re: mathml <mtext> behaviour
  2014-05-18 15:26 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2014-05-18 15:57   ` Meer, H. van der
  2014-05-18 16:20     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Meer, H. van der @ 2014-05-18 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: NTG ConTeXt


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On 18 mei 2014, at 17:26, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl<mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote:

On 5/18/2014 10:05 AM, H. van der Meer wrote:
Sorry if this question reaches you twice, but the first time I used an
email address not registered with this newsgroup.

The short example below typeset with

\usemodule[mathml]
\starttext
\typebuffer
\blank
\processxmlbuffer
\stoptext

and "ConTeXt  ver: 2014.04.04 00:08 MKIV beta" shows that the <mtext>
element does not honour the tags within. This severely restricts the
presentation.



So what makes you think these tags should be recognized and interpreted as being 'bold'?

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML
Presentation MathML
....

Note however that these token elements may be used as extension points, allowing markup in host languages. MathML in HTML5<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5> allows most inline HTML markup in mtext, and

  *   <mtext><b>non</b> zero</mtext>

is conforming, with the HTML markup being used within the MathML to mark up the embedded text (making the first word bold in this example).

Hans van der Meer



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* Re: mathml <mtext> behaviour
  2014-05-18  8:05 H. van der Meer
@ 2014-05-18 15:26 ` Hans Hagen
  2014-05-18 15:57   ` Meer, H. van der
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On 5/18/2014 10:05 AM, H. van der Meer wrote:
> Sorry if this question reaches you twice, but the first time I used an
> email address not registered with this newsgroup.
>
> The short example below typeset with
>
> \usemodule[mathml]
> \starttext
> \typebuffer
> \blank
> \processxmlbuffer
> \stoptext
>
> and "ConTeXt  ver: 2014.04.04 00:08 MKIV beta" shows that the <mtext>
> element does not honour the tags within. This severely restricts the
> presentation.

So what makes you think these tags should be recognized and interpreted 
as being 'bold'?

> Can this be remedied?

\usemodule[mathml,mathml-html]

with the attached


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%D \modul
%D   [       file=x-mathml,
%D        version=2014.05.18,
%D          title=\CONTEXT\ XML Modules,
%D       subtitle=\MATHML\ embedded HTML,
%D         author=Hans Hagen,
%D           date=\currentdate,
%D      copyright={PRAGMA ADE \& \CONTEXT\ Development Team}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.

% maybe some more

\startmodule [mathml-html]

\startxmlsetups mml:html:b
    \bold{\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups mml:html:i
    \italic{\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups mml:html:tt
    \mono{\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups mml:html:em
    \emphasized{\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups mml:html
    \xmlsetsetup{#1}{mml:b|mml:i|mml:tt|mml:em}{mml:html:*}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{mml:html}

\stopmodule

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* mathml <mtext> behaviour
@ 2014-05-18  8:05 H. van der Meer
  2014-05-18 15:26 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: H. van der Meer @ 2014-05-18  8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: NTG ConTeXt


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Sorry if this question reaches you twice, but the first time I used an email address not registered with this newsgroup.

The short example below typeset with

\usemodule[mathml]
\starttext
\typebuffer
\blank
\processxmlbuffer
\stoptext

and "ConTeXt  ver: 2014.04.04 00:08 MKIV beta" shows that the <mtext> element does not honour the tags within. This severely restricts the presentation. 
Can this be remedied?

Hans van der Meer





Hans van der Meer




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