"pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

"pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Max Chernoff via ntg-context]

When I go to:

     https://www.pragma-ade.com/

I get a page that says:

     pragma-ade.com expired on 06/28/2016 and is pending renewal or deletion.

followed by some advertisements. Both a link archiver

     https://archive.today/jUOox

and an SSL/TLS certificate checker

     https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.pragma-ade.com

show the same results, so I'm pretty sure that this isn't just an issue
with my connection.

Both "https://www.pragma-ade.nl/" and "https://www.pragma-pod.nl/" still
work as expected.

Here's the output of a few debugging commands:

     $ whois pragma-ade.com
        Domain Name: PRAGMA-ADE.COM
        Registry Domain ID: 30119007_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
        Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
        Registrar URL: http://networksolutions.com
        Updated Date: 2022-06-30T10:41:12Z
        Creation Date: 2000-06-28T10:41:39Z
        Registry Expiry Date: 2023-06-28T10:41:39Z
        Registrar: Network Solutions, LLC
        Registrar IANA ID: 2
        Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@web.com
        Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8003337680
        Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
        Name Server: NS1.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM
        Name Server: NS2.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM
        DNSSEC: unsigned
        URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
     >>> Last update of whois database: 2022-07-01T05:34:25Z <<<


     $ dig www.pragma-ade.com @1.1.1.1
     ; <<>> DiG 9.16.1-Ubuntu <<>> www.pragma-ade.com @1.1.1.1
     ;; global options: +cmd
     ;; Got answer:
     ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33675
     ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

     ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
     ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
     ;; QUESTION SECTION:
     ;www.pragma-ade.com.            IN      A

     ;; ANSWER SECTION:
     www.pragma-ade.com.     7200    IN      A       208.91.197.132

     ;; Query time: 90 msec
     ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
     ;; WHEN: Thu Jun 30 23:34:00 MDT 2022
     ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 63


     $ whois 208.91.197.132
     NetRange:       208.91.196.0 - 208.91.197.255
     CIDR:           208.91.196.0/23
     NetName:        CONFLUENCE-NETWORK-INC
     NetHandle:      NET-208-91-196-0-1
     Parent:         NET208 (NET-208-0-0-0-0)
     NetType:        Direct Allocation
     OriginAS:       AS40034
     Organization:   Confluence Networks Inc (CN)
     RegDate:        2011-04-15
     Updated:        2015-11-23
     Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.91.196.0

     OrgName:        Confluence Networks Inc
     OrgId:          CN
     Address:        3rd Floor, J & C Building, P.O. Box 362
     City:           Road Town
     StateProv:      Tortola
     PostalCode:     VG1110
     Country:        VG
     RegDate:        2011-04-07
     Updated:        2017-03-29
     Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CN


     $ whois pragma-ade.nl
     Domain name: pragma-ade.nl
     Status:      active

     Reseller:
        Soverin BV
        Vijzelstraat 68
        1017HL Amsterdam
        Netherlands

     Registrar:
        Metaregistrar B.V.
        Zuidelijk Halfrond 1
        2801DD Gouda
        Netherlands

     Abuse Contact:
        +31.858885692
        abuse@metaregistrar.com

     Creation Date: 1999-02-10

     Updated Date: 2021-11-23

     DNSSEC:      yes

     Domain nameservers:
        ns0.soverin.net
        ns1.soverin.net
        ns2.soverin.net
        ns3.soverin.net

     Record maintained by: NL Domain Registry
     
     
     $ dig www.pragma-ade.nl @1.1.1.1
     ; <<>> DiG 9.16.1-Ubuntu <<>> www.pragma-ade.nl @1.1.1.1
     ;; global options: +cmd
     ;; Got answer:
     ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7089
     ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

     ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
     ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
     ;; QUESTION SECTION:
     ;www.pragma-ade.nl.             IN      A

     ;; ANSWER SECTION:
     www.pragma-ade.nl.      300     IN      A       213.125.29.165

     ;; Query time: 730 msec
     ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
     ;; WHEN: Thu Jun 30 23:55:28 MDT 2022
     ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 62


     $ whois 213.125.29.165
     inetnum:        213.125.29.160 - 213.125.29.167
     netname:        PRAGMA
     descr:          Pragma
     descr:          Hasselt
     descr:          This space is statically assigned.
     country:        NL
     admin-c:        HH6275-RIPE
     tech-c:         ZBTB1-RIPE
     status:         ASSIGNED PA
     mnt-by:         ZIGGO-AUTOREG1
     created:        2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
     last-modified:  2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
     source:         RIPE

     role:           VODAFONEZIGGO IP AUTHORITY
     address:        Kabelweg 51
     address:        1014BA Amsterdam
     address:        The Netherlands
     phone:          +31887170000
     admin-c:        ZIPA1-RIPE
     tech-c:         MB5261-RIPE
     tech-c:         BH4773-RIPE
     nic-hdl:        ZBTB1-RIPE
     abuse-mailbox:  abuse@ziggo.nl
     mnt-by:         ZIGGO-MNT
     created:        2009-05-28T09:33:44Z
     last-modified:  2022-01-17T07:48:57Z
     source:         RIPE # Filtered

     person:         h Hagen
     address:        Ridderstraat 27
     address:        8061 GH Hasselt
     phone:          +31384775369
     mnt-by:         ZIGGO-AUTOREG1
     created:        2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
     last-modified:  2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
     source:         RIPE # Filtered
     nic-hdl:        HH6275-RIPE


     $ curl -kA 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) Firefox/103.0' 'https://www.pragma-ade.com' | lynx -dump -stdin | head -30
        [1]Pragma-ade.com
        [2]networksolutions
        pragma-ade.com expired on 06/28/2016 and is pending renewal or
        deletion.
        [3]Renew Now

        [4]Backorder Domain

        Related Searches:
          * [5]Trentino
          * [6]Tyrol
          * [7]Alto Adige
          * [8]Suedtirol
          * [9]Prag Flygplats
          * [10]Lufthavn Prag
          * [11]Online Advertising Trends

        ____________________ Submit

        [12]Trademark Free Notice
          * [13]Review our Privacy Policy
          * [14]Service Agreement
          * [15]Legal Notice

        [16]Privacy Policy

     References

        1. http://www.Pragma-ade.com/
        2. http://www.networksolutions.com/


     $ traceroute www.pragma-ade.com
     traceroute to www.pragma-ade.com (208.91.197.132), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
      1  [redacted] ([redacted])  0.448 ms  0.408 ms  0.390 ms
      2  [redacted] ([redacted])  6.531 ms  19.859 ms  19.830 ms
      3  [redacted] ([redacted])  19.315 ms  19.255 ms  19.054 ms
      4  154.11.10.156 (154.11.10.156)  19.303 ms  19.252 ms  19.184 ms
      5  ae10.zayo.mpr1.yyc2.ca.zip.zayo.com (64.125.15.156)  13.462 ms  12.396 ms  12.270 ms
      6  64.125.23.228 (64.125.23.228)  12.109 ms  10.362 ms  10.325 ms
      7  * * 64.125.22.78 (64.125.22.78)  93.296 ms
      8  * * *
      9  ae4.cs1.iah1.us.eth.zayo.com (64.125.28.55)  93.200 ms  93.185 ms  92.895 ms
     10  ae0.cs2.iah1.us.eth.zayo.com (64.125.28.95)  92.836 ms  92.820 ms  92.808 ms
     11  ae2.mpr2.aus1.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.31.250)  92.797 ms  92.786 ms  92.721 ms
     12  ae4.er1.aus3.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.31.27)  92.716 ms  80.713 ms  80.239 ms
     13  * * *
     14  * * *
     15  * * *
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     17  * * *
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     25  * * *
     26  * * *
     27  * * *
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     29  * * *
     30  * * *
     
     
     $ traceroute www.pragma-ade.nl
     traceroute to www.pragma-ade.nl (213.125.29.165), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
      1  [redacted] ([redacted])  0.503 ms  0.423 ms  0.394 ms
      2  [redacted] ([redacted])  1.933 ms  1.906 ms  1.880 ms
      3  [redacted] ([redacted])  6.651 ms  6.394 ms  6.584 ms
      4  seattle.bb.telus.com (154.11.15.109)  31.708 ms 154.11.15.111 (154.11.15.111)  28.888 ms  28.868 ms
      5  ae57.edge6.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.14.240.209)  58.253 ms  60.076 ms  57.310 ms
      6  * * *
      7  us-sjo01a-ri3-ae-6-0.aorta.net (213.46.190.57)  74.649 ms  72.970 ms  72.738 ms
      8  us-nyc01b-rd2-ae-18-0.aorta.net (84.116.146.34)  177.011 ms  180.112 ms  177.249 ms
      9  us-was03a-rd1-ae-5-0.aorta.net (84.116.146.142)  169.339 ms  169.318 ms  169.592 ms
     10  * * *
     11  asd-rc0001-cr101-be60-2.core.as33915.net (213.51.64.5)  168.494 ms  169.741 ms  169.712 ms
     12  zl-rc0001-dr101-ae0-0.core.as9143.net (213.51.158.47)  178.211 ms  178.195 ms  245.442 ms
     13  * * *
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Can anyone else confirm this issue?

-- Max
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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context]

Well, 

Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.

Best wishes,
Taco

> On 1 Jul 2022, at 08:01, Max Chernoff via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> When I go to:
> 
>    https://www.pragma-ade.com/
> 
> I get a page that says:
> 
>    pragma-ade.com expired on 06/28/2016 and is pending renewal or deletion.
> 
> followed by some advertisements. Both a link archiver
> 
>    https://archive.today/jUOox
> 
> and an SSL/TLS certificate checker
> 
>    https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.pragma-ade.com
> 
> show the same results, so I'm pretty sure that this isn't just an issue
> with my connection.
> 
> Both "https://www.pragma-ade.nl/" and "https://www.pragma-pod.nl/" still
> work as expected.
> 
> Here's the output of a few debugging commands:
> 
>    $ whois pragma-ade.com
>       Domain Name: PRAGMA-ADE.COM
>       Registry Domain ID: 30119007_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
>       Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
>       Registrar URL: http://networksolutions.com
>       Updated Date: 2022-06-30T10:41:12Z
>       Creation Date: 2000-06-28T10:41:39Z
>       Registry Expiry Date: 2023-06-28T10:41:39Z
>       Registrar: Network Solutions, LLC
>       Registrar IANA ID: 2
>       Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@web.com
>       Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8003337680
>       Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
>       Name Server: NS1.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM
>       Name Server: NS2.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM
>       DNSSEC: unsigned
>       URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>    >>> Last update of whois database: 2022-07-01T05:34:25Z <<<
> 
> 
>    $ dig www.pragma-ade.com @1.1.1.1
>    ; <<>> DiG 9.16.1-Ubuntu <<>> www.pragma-ade.com @1.1.1.1
>    ;; global options: +cmd
>    ;; Got answer:
>    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33675
>    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
>    ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>    ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>    ;www.pragma-ade.com.            IN      A
> 
>    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>    www.pragma-ade.com.     7200    IN      A       208.91.197.132
> 
>    ;; Query time: 90 msec
>    ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
>    ;; WHEN: Thu Jun 30 23:34:00 MDT 2022
>    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 63
> 
> 
>    $ whois 208.91.197.132
>    NetRange:       208.91.196.0 - 208.91.197.255
>    CIDR:           208.91.196.0/23
>    NetName:        CONFLUENCE-NETWORK-INC
>    NetHandle:      NET-208-91-196-0-1
>    Parent:         NET208 (NET-208-0-0-0-0)
>    NetType:        Direct Allocation
>    OriginAS:       AS40034
>    Organization:   Confluence Networks Inc (CN)
>    RegDate:        2011-04-15
>    Updated:        2015-11-23
>    Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/208.91.196.0
> 
>    OrgName:        Confluence Networks Inc
>    OrgId:          CN
>    Address:        3rd Floor, J & C Building, P.O. Box 362
>    City:           Road Town
>    StateProv:      Tortola
>    PostalCode:     VG1110
>    Country:        VG
>    RegDate:        2011-04-07
>    Updated:        2017-03-29
>    Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/CN
> 
> 
>    $ whois pragma-ade.nl
>    Domain name: pragma-ade.nl
>    Status:      active
> 
>    Reseller:
>       Soverin BV
>       Vijzelstraat 68
>       1017HL Amsterdam
>       Netherlands
> 
>    Registrar:
>       Metaregistrar B.V.
>       Zuidelijk Halfrond 1
>       2801DD Gouda
>       Netherlands
> 
>    Abuse Contact:
>       +31.858885692
>       abuse@metaregistrar.com
> 
>    Creation Date: 1999-02-10
> 
>    Updated Date: 2021-11-23
> 
>    DNSSEC:      yes
> 
>    Domain nameservers:
>       ns0.soverin.net
>       ns1.soverin.net
>       ns2.soverin.net
>       ns3.soverin.net
> 
>    Record maintained by: NL Domain Registry
>            $ dig www.pragma-ade.nl @1.1.1.1
>    ; <<>> DiG 9.16.1-Ubuntu <<>> www.pragma-ade.nl @1.1.1.1
>    ;; global options: +cmd
>    ;; Got answer:
>    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7089
>    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
>    ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>    ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>    ;www.pragma-ade.nl.             IN      A
> 
>    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>    www.pragma-ade.nl.      300     IN      A       213.125.29.165
> 
>    ;; Query time: 730 msec
>    ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
>    ;; WHEN: Thu Jun 30 23:55:28 MDT 2022
>    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 62
> 
> 
>    $ whois 213.125.29.165
>    inetnum:        213.125.29.160 - 213.125.29.167
>    netname:        PRAGMA
>    descr:          Pragma
>    descr:          Hasselt
>    descr:          This space is statically assigned.
>    country:        NL
>    admin-c:        HH6275-RIPE
>    tech-c:         ZBTB1-RIPE
>    status:         ASSIGNED PA
>    mnt-by:         ZIGGO-AUTOREG1
>    created:        2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
>    last-modified:  2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
>    source:         RIPE
> 
>    role:           VODAFONEZIGGO IP AUTHORITY
>    address:        Kabelweg 51
>    address:        1014BA Amsterdam
>    address:        The Netherlands
>    phone:          +31887170000
>    admin-c:        ZIPA1-RIPE
>    tech-c:         MB5261-RIPE
>    tech-c:         BH4773-RIPE
>    nic-hdl:        ZBTB1-RIPE
>    abuse-mailbox:  abuse@ziggo.nl
>    mnt-by:         ZIGGO-MNT
>    created:        2009-05-28T09:33:44Z
>    last-modified:  2022-01-17T07:48:57Z
>    source:         RIPE # Filtered
> 
>    person:         h Hagen
>    address:        Ridderstraat 27
>    address:        8061 GH Hasselt
>    phone:          +31384775369
>    mnt-by:         ZIGGO-AUTOREG1
>    created:        2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
>    last-modified:  2015-11-18T13:16:01Z
>    source:         RIPE # Filtered
>    nic-hdl:        HH6275-RIPE
> 
> 
>    $ curl -kA 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) Firefox/103.0' 'https://www.pragma-ade.com' | lynx -dump -stdin | head -30
>       [1]Pragma-ade.com
>       [2]networksolutions
>       pragma-ade.com expired on 06/28/2016 and is pending renewal or
>       deletion.
>       [3]Renew Now
> 
>       [4]Backorder Domain
> 
>       Related Searches:
>         * [5]Trentino
>         * [6]Tyrol
>         * [7]Alto Adige
>         * [8]Suedtirol
>         * [9]Prag Flygplats
>         * [10]Lufthavn Prag
>         * [11]Online Advertising Trends
> 
>       ____________________ Submit
> 
>       [12]Trademark Free Notice
>         * [13]Review our Privacy Policy
>         * [14]Service Agreement
>         * [15]Legal Notice
> 
>       [16]Privacy Policy
> 
>    References
> 
>       1. http://www.Pragma-ade.com/
>       2. http://www.networksolutions.com/
> 
> 
>    $ traceroute www.pragma-ade.com
>    traceroute to www.pragma-ade.com (208.91.197.132), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>     1  [redacted] ([redacted])  0.448 ms  0.408 ms  0.390 ms
>     2  [redacted] ([redacted])  6.531 ms  19.859 ms  19.830 ms
>     3  [redacted] ([redacted])  19.315 ms  19.255 ms  19.054 ms
>     4  154.11.10.156 (154.11.10.156)  19.303 ms  19.252 ms  19.184 ms
>     5  ae10.zayo.mpr1.yyc2.ca.zip.zayo.com (64.125.15.156)  13.462 ms  12.396 ms  12.270 ms
>     6  64.125.23.228 (64.125.23.228)  12.109 ms  10.362 ms  10.325 ms
>     7  * * 64.125.22.78 (64.125.22.78)  93.296 ms
>     8  * * *
>     9  ae4.cs1.iah1.us.eth.zayo.com (64.125.28.55)  93.200 ms  93.185 ms  92.895 ms
>    10  ae0.cs2.iah1.us.eth.zayo.com (64.125.28.95)  92.836 ms  92.820 ms  92.808 ms
>    11  ae2.mpr2.aus1.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.31.250)  92.797 ms  92.786 ms  92.721 ms
>    12  ae4.er1.aus3.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.31.27)  92.716 ms  80.713 ms  80.239 ms
>    13  * * *
>    14  * * *
>    15  * * *
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>    25  * * *
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>    27  * * *
>    28  * * *
>    29  * * *
>    30  * * *
>            $ traceroute www.pragma-ade.nl
>    traceroute to www.pragma-ade.nl (213.125.29.165), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>     1  [redacted] ([redacted])  0.503 ms  0.423 ms  0.394 ms
>     2  [redacted] ([redacted])  1.933 ms  1.906 ms  1.880 ms
>     3  [redacted] ([redacted])  6.651 ms  6.394 ms  6.584 ms
>     4  seattle.bb.telus.com (154.11.15.109)  31.708 ms 154.11.15.111 (154.11.15.111)  28.888 ms  28.868 ms
>     5  ae57.edge6.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.14.240.209)  58.253 ms  60.076 ms  57.310 ms
>     6  * * *
>     7  us-sjo01a-ri3-ae-6-0.aorta.net (213.46.190.57)  74.649 ms  72.970 ms  72.738 ms
>     8  us-nyc01b-rd2-ae-18-0.aorta.net (84.116.146.34)  177.011 ms  180.112 ms  177.249 ms
>     9  us-was03a-rd1-ae-5-0.aorta.net (84.116.146.142)  169.339 ms  169.318 ms  169.592 ms
>    10  * * *
>    11  asd-rc0001-cr101-be60-2.core.as33915.net (213.51.64.5)  168.494 ms  169.741 ms  169.712 ms
>    12  zl-rc0001-dr101-ae0-0.core.as9143.net (213.51.158.47)  178.211 ms  178.195 ms  245.442 ms
>    13  * * *
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>    28  * * *
>    29  * * *
>    30  * * *
> 
> 
> Can anyone else confirm this issue?
> 
> -- Max
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
> 
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> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/1/2022 9:02 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
> Well,
> 
> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they don't 
like to transfer

make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the nl 
one only, saves money too

Hans

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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 01.07.22 um 09:33 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
> On 7/1/2022 9:02 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to 
>> move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
> indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they don't 
> like to transfer
> 
> make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the nl 
> one only, saves money too

Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.

Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...

Hraban
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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context]

> On 1 Jul 2022, at 09:46, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> Am 01.07.22 um 09:33 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
>> On 7/1/2022 9:02 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> 
>>> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
>> indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they don't like to transfer
>> make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the nl one only, saves money too
> 
> Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.
> 
> Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...

I do not know of a clean way to automate that. It may be possible, but then it is outside of my knowledge set. So yeah, by hand.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 01.07.22 um 10:24 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> 
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2022, at 09:46, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Am 01.07.22 um 09:33 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
>>> On 7/1/2022 9:02 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
>>> indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they don't like to transfer
>>> make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the nl one only, saves money too
>>
>> Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.
>>
>> Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...
> 
> I do not know of a clean way to automate that. It may be possible, but then it is outside of my knowledge set. So yeah, by hand.

Ok, I started. And of course I find a lot of other details to fix on the 
way...

Would you please change the [[manual:]] template? I didn’t find where to 
change it (and maybe I lack the permissions).

Hraban
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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/1/2022 10:24 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2022, at 09:46, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Am 01.07.22 um 09:33 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
>>> On 7/1/2022 9:02 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
>>> indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they don't like to transfer
>>> make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the nl one only, saves money too
>>
>> Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.
>>
>> Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...
> 
> I do not know of a clean way to automate that. It may be possible, but then it is outside of my knowledge set. So yeah, by hand.

i'll try again to transfer but it might take days ... tried it many 
times but we'll see it it works this time

Hans



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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 7/1/2022 10:54 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> Am 01.07.22 um 10:24 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
>>
>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2022, at 09:46, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>>> <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 01.07.22 um 09:33 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
>>>> On 7/1/2022 9:02 AM, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context wrote:
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him 
>>>>> to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
>>>> indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they 
>>>> don't like to transfer
>>>> make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the 
>>>> nl one only, saves money too
>>>
>>> Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.
>>>
>>> Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...
>>
>> I do not know of a clean way to automate that. It may be possible, but 
>> then it is outside of my knowledge set. So yeah, by hand.
> 
> Ok, I started. And of course I find a lot of other details to fix on the 
> way...
> 
> Would you please change the [[manual:]] template? I didn’t find where to 
> change it (and maybe I lack the permissions).
we'll keep the nl domain(s) anyway so changing to them are ok

Hans

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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Max Chernoff via ntg-context]

>> Hans had been complaining about networksolutions not allowing him to move the domain away from them, so I guess this was to be expected.
> indeed, and transfer is pending for ages now ... looks liek they don't 
> like to transfer

They only have 5 days to respond to a transfer request. If it's been
longer -- which it presumably has been -- you can file a complaint with
ICANN, which should hopefully push them to complete the transfer.

     https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/transfer-complaint-24aug16-en.pdf

Even if it's expired, you should still be able to transfer it:

     https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/name-holder-faqs-2017-10-10-en (#11)

The WHOIS info says that the domain doesn't expire until 2023-06-28, so
I'm not too sure what's going on here.

> make me wonder if we should just ditch that domain and stick to the nl 
> one only, saves money too

There are lots of links around the web to "pragma-ade.com". It might be a
good idea to phase out the .com and have all of the pages redirect to the
.nl, but I'd say that it's probably worth the ~$15/year to make sure that
pragma-ade.com isn't used to host spam/porn/malware.

-- Max
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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Max Chernoff via ntg-context]

>> Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.
>> 
>> Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...
> 
> I do not know of a clean way to automate that. It may be possible, but then it is outside of my knowledge set. So yeah, by hand.

This might work

     https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:ReplaceText

but I don't have the permissions to use it. I have no idea if it will 
work, but it looks like both of you (Hraban and Taco) are administrators 
and thus have requisite permissions to test it.

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Re: "pragma-ade.com" is now a domain parking page

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 02.07.22 um 07:50 schrieb Max Chernoff via ntg-context:
>>> Well, we must change a lot of dead links on the wiki now.
>>>
>>> Taco, can you automate it? Otherwise I’ll start...
>>
>> I do not know of a clean way to automate that. It may be possible, but 
>> then it is outside of my knowledge set. So yeah, by hand.
> 
> This might work
> 
>      https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:ReplaceText
> 
> but I don't have the permissions to use it. I have no idea if it will 
> work, but it looks like both of you (Hraban and Taco) are administrators 
> and thus have requisite permissions to test it.

Thank you for the hint! It’s done now (after I changed several pages 
yesterday and Taco fixed the [[manual:]] link.

Hraban

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