Best way to access casul fonts

Best way to access casul fonts

[Mattias Märka via ntg-context]

Hi,

I'm trying to access Lucida Casual. I see in type-imp-lucida-typeone.mkiv that there is, indeed, a typescript for it, but I can't figure out how to switch to it. That is, I want to make some text be Lucida Casual.

I gather from a previous thread that I should be using \definefontstyle, but I don't know how to go about this.

Currently I'm just defining a new typescript and making Lucida Casual a synonym for Serif and then using \switchtobodyfont --- but this feel silly.

I searched the wiki and skimmed the reference manual, but to no avail. Perhaps I don't know what I should be looking for.

Any help would be appreciated. What's the easiest way to access a casual font? What's the cleanest way?

Thanks,
Mattias Märka
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Garulfo via ntg-context]

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Hi,

Following the instruction from : 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want

mtxrun --script font --list --file -pattern=*casual*


gives :

familyname     weight   style    width    variant   fontname 
       filename                                subfont   fontweight

lucidacasual   normal   normal   normal   normal    lucidacasual 
   /home/xxxx/.fonts/LucidaCasual.ttf



Then the following code should work :

\starttypescript [myserif]

   \definefontsynonym[LucidaCasual-Regular]    [file:LucidaCasual.ttf]

\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [myserif]

   \setups[font:fallback:serif]

   \definefontsynonym[Serif] [LucidaCasual-Regular] [features=default]

\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [myserif]

   \definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif]    [default]

\stoptypescript

\setupbodyfont[12pt]

\starttext

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

\setupbodyfont[myserif]

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

\stoptext



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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 1/23/23 19:04, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to access Lucida Casual.

Hi Matthias,

With a relatively recent version of ConTeXt (LMTX or MkIV), the
following should work:

  \definefontfamily[myserif][rm][Lucida Casual]
  \starttext
  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

  \setupbodyfont[myserif]
  The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
  \stoptext

This is the easiest way to access it.

Another question would be how to mix a casual font with serif,
sans-serif and mono typefaces.

Just in case it might help,

Pablo
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Mattias Märka via ntg-context]

Hi Pablo,

Yes, I want to mix casual with serif, sans-serif and so on. Sorry, I wasn't clear in my original message.

What Garulfo suggested is what I've been doing.

Mattias


------- Original Message -------
On Monday, January 23rd, 2023 at 9:10 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:


> 
> 
> 
> On 1/23/23 19:04, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm trying to access Lucida Casual.
> 
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> With a relatively recent version of ConTeXt (LMTX or MkIV), the
> following should work:
> 
> \definefontfamily[myserif][rm][Lucida Casual]
> \starttext
> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
> 
> \setupbodyfont[myserif]
> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
> \stoptext
> 
> This is the easiest way to access it.
> 
> Another question would be how to mix a casual font with serif,
> sans-serif and mono typefaces.
> 
> Just in case it might help,
> 
> Pablo
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 1/23/23 20:32, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
> 
> Yes, I want to mix casual with serif, sans-serif and so on. 
Hi Mattias (please, excuse my previous misspelling of your name),

here you have it:

  \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
  \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][TeX Gyre Heros]
  \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
  \definefontfamily[mainface][hw][Lucida Casual]
  \definefontfamily[mainface][cg][Lucida Casual]
  \setupbodyfont[mainface]
  \starttext
  \doloopoverlist{\rm,\ss,\tt,\hw,\cg}
    {{\recursestring%
      The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.\par}}
  \stoptext

Lucida Casual is handwriting and calligraphy in the sample. But you only
need one of them.

I hope it helps,

Pablo
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Mattias Märka via ntg-context]

Hi

This is probably the most reasonable solution.

Thanks
Mattias

------- Original Message -------
On Tuesday, January 24th, 2023 at 9:41 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:


> 
> 
> 
> On 1/23/23 20:32, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> > Hi Pablo,
> > 
> > Yes, I want to mix casual with serif, sans-serif and so on.
> 
> Hi Mattias (please, excuse my previous misspelling of your name),
> 
> here you have it:
> 
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][TeX Gyre Heros]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][tt][TeX Gyre Cursor]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][hw][Lucida Casual]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][cg][Lucida Casual]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
> \starttext
> \doloopoverlist{\rm,\ss,\tt,\hw,\cg}
> {{\recursestring%
> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.\par}}
> \stoptext
> 
> Lucida Casual is handwriting and calligraphy in the sample. But you only
> need one of them.
> 
> I hope it helps,
> 
> Pablo
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 1/29/23 19:07, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi
> 
> This is probably the most reasonable solution.

Hi Mattias,

would you be so kind to update
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want to include this?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo

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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Mattias Märka via ntg-context]

Hi

Will do.

\definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.
The threads I'm referring to:
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg00039.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg39849.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg84188.html
I might start a separate thread and ask whether \definefontstyle still works.

I also experimented with defining my own typescripts for Lucida so that casual and fax (and all the other various Lucida fonts, really) are easily accessible.

Something like:

\starttypescript[serif][lucbr]
  \definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaBright]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaBright-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][name:LucidaBright-Demi]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:LucidaBright-DemiItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted][name:LucidaBright-Slanted]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][name:LucidaBrightSmallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldCaps][name:LucidaBrightSmallCaps-Demi]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[serif][lucfax]
  \definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaFax]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaFax-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][name:LucidaFax-Demi]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][name:LucidaFax-DemiItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[sans][lucss]
  \definefontsynonym[Sans][name:LucidaSans]
  \definefontsynonym[SansItalic][name:LucidaSans-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym[SansBold][name:LucidaSans-Demi]
  \definefontsynonym[SansBoldItalic][name:LucidaSans-DemiItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[mono][lucbr,luctt]
  \definefontsynonym[Mono][name:LucidaTypewriter]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoItalic][name:LucidaTypweriterOblique]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoBold][name:LucidaTypewriterBold]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic][name:LucidaTypweriterBoldOblique]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[mono][lucss,lucsstt]
  \definefontsynonym[Mono][name:LucidaSansTypewriter]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoItalic][name:LucidaSansTypweriterOblique]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoBold][name:LucidaSansTypewriterBold]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic][name:LucidaSansTypweriterBoldOblique]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[calligraphy][lucbr,luccg]
  \definefontsynonym[Calligraphy][name:LucidaCalligraphy-Italic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[handwriting][lucbr,luchw]
  \definefontsynonym[Handwriting][name:LucidaHandwriting-Italic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[serif][lucbl]
  \definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaBlackletter]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[serif][luccas]
  \definefontsynonym[Serif][name:LucidaCasual]
  \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][name:LucidaCasual-Italic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[lucbr]
  \definetypeface[lucbr][rm][serif][lucbr][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[lucbr][mm][math][lucida][default]
  \definetypeface[lucbr][tt][mono][lucbr][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[lucbr][cg][calligrpahy][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[lucbr][hw][handwriting][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[lucfax]
  \definetypeface[lucfax][rm][serif][lucfax][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[lucss]
  \definetypeface[lucss][ss][sans][lucss][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[lucss][tt][mono][lucss][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[luctt]
  \definetypeface[luctt][tt][mono][luctt][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[lucsstt]
  \definetypeface[lucsstt][tt][mono][lucsstt][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[luccg]
  \definetypeface[luccg][cg][calligraphy][luccg][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[luchw]
  \definetypeface[luchw][hw][handwriting][luchw][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[lucbl]
  \definetypeface[lucbl][rm][serif][lucbl][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[luccas]
  \definetypeface[luccas][rm][serif][luccas][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[luc]
  \definetypeface[luc][rm][serif][lucbr][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[luc][mm][math][lucida][default]
  \definetypeface[luc][ss][sans][lucss][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[luc][tt][mono][lucbr][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[luc][cg][calligraphy][lucbr][default][features=default]
  \definetypeface[luc][hw][handwriting][lucbr][default][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\def\lucbr{\switchtobodyfont[lucbr]}
\def\lucfax{\switchtobodyfont[lucfax]}
\def\lucss{\switchtobodyfont[lucss]}
\def\luctt{\switchtobodyfont[luctt]}
\def\lucsstt{\switchtobodyfont[lucsstt]}
\def\luccg{\switchtobodyfont[luccg]}
\def\luchw{\switchtobodyfont[luchw]}
\def\lucbl{\switchtobodyfont[lucbl]}
\def\luccas{\switchtobodyfont[luccas]}

Would it make sense adding this to the wiki as well? I feel like what I'm doing is non-standard. I'm also repeating a lot of what's in the Lucida typescript file that comes with the distribution. There must be some easy way to monkey patch the existing type script file.

Mattias

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On Monday, January 30th, 2023 at 1:20 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:


> 
> 
> 
> On 1/29/23 19:07, Mattias Märka via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > 
> > This is probably the most reasonable solution.
> 
> 
> Hi Mattias,
> 
> would you be so kind to update
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Use_the_fonts_you_want to include this?
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
> 
> Pablo
> 
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 30.01.23 um 18:24 schrieb Mattias Märka via ntg-context:
> \definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.

No, it isn’t, I recently asked Hans.

Hraban

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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Mattias Märka via ntg-context]

Ha, good to know. Do you know what one should do instead?

Also, do you know why this is? It would be good to mention this on the wiki.

Mattias

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On Monday, January 30th, 2023 at 7:49 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:


> 
> 
> 
> Am 30.01.23 um 18:24 schrieb Mattias Märka via ntg-context:
> 
> > \definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not sure this is still possible.
> 
> 
> No, it isn’t, I recently asked Hans.
> 
> Hraban
> 
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Re: Best way to access casul fonts

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 1/30/2023 6:49 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> Am 30.01.23 um 18:24 schrieb Mattias Märka via ntg-context:
>> \definefontstyle is still bugging me. I gather from previous threads 
>> that it should be possible to define a new font style for casual and 
>> use that via a font switch, but I cannot get this to work. I'm not 
>> sure this is still possible.
> 
> No, it isn’t, I recently asked Hans.
just define a new typeface with casual as serif

Hans

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