including documents with mediaclips in other documents

including documents with mediaclips in other documents

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

Dear list,

I have the following sample:

  \setupinteraction[state=start]
  \starttext
  \null\page
  \definerenderingwindow[myrenderingwindow]
    [width=\textwidth, height=\textwidth]
  \userendering[key-name][audio/mp3][audio.mp3]
    [embed=yes, auto]
  \placerenderingwindow[myrenderingwindow][key-name]
  \page
  \null\page
  \stoptext

I want to include the second page in another document.

\externalfigure[document.pdf][page=2, interaction=all] would be the
right command, but it looses the media clip.

A complete sample would be:

  \setupinteraction[state=start]
  \starttext
  \startlayout[page]
  \externalfigure[document.pdf][page=2, interaction=all]
  \stoplayout
  \stoptext

Given this sample, is there any way to include the page (or the whole
document) with the media clip and all its functionalty?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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Re: including documents with mediaclips in other documents

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 2/14/2023 7:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> I have the following sample:
> 
>    \setupinteraction[state=start]
>    \starttext
>    \null\page
>    \definerenderingwindow[myrenderingwindow]
>      [width=\textwidth, height=\textwidth]
>    \userendering[key-name][audio/mp3][audio.mp3]
>      [embed=yes, auto]
>    \placerenderingwindow[myrenderingwindow][key-name]
>    \page
>    \null\page
>    \stoptext
> 
> I want to include the second page in another document.
> 
> \externalfigure[document.pdf][page=2, interaction=all] would be the
> right command, but it looses the media clip.
> 
> A complete sample would be:
> 
>    \setupinteraction[state=start]
>    \starttext
>    \startlayout[page]
>    \externalfigure[document.pdf][page=2, interaction=all]
>    \stoplayout
>    \stoptext
> 
> Given this sample, is there any way to include the page (or the whole
> document) with the media clip and all its functionalty?
currently not and given the number of possibilities it's quite a bit of 
work so it has a low priority (i can't even test media right now because 
i have no full acrobat installed)

Hans

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Re: including documents with mediaclips in other documents

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 2/14/23 22:43, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 2/14/2023 7:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>> [...]
>> Given this sample, is there any way to include the page (or the whole
>> document) with the media clip and all its functionalty?
> currently not and given the number of possibilities it's quite a bit of 
> work so it has a low priority (i can't even test media right now because 
> i have no full acrobat installed)

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

I didn‘t know that it was so complex to do. In fact, I wonder why not
all annotations or links and destinations are copied right.

Now I guess that is way harder than I think.

BTW, Acrobat Reader displays these media. I don’t have access to full
Acrobat either and these annotations work fine in Reader.

Many thanks for your help again,

Pablo
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Re: including documents with mediaclips in other documents

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 2/15/2023 5:35 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
> On 2/14/23 22:43, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>> On 2/14/2023 7:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Given this sample, is there any way to include the page (or the whole
>>> document) with the media clip and all its functionalty?
>> currently not and given the number of possibilities it's quite a bit of
>> work so it has a low priority (i can't even test media right now because
>> i have no full acrobat installed)
> 
> Many thanks for your reply, Hans.
> 
> I didn‘t know that it was so complex to do. In fact, I wonder why not
> all annotations or links and destinations are copied right.
> 
> Now I guess that is way harder than I think.

quite some are but we need to emulate them and therefore interpret them 
as one cannot simply copy objects (all kind of potential clashes)

> BTW, Acrobat Reader displays these media. I don’t have access to full
> Acrobat either and these annotations work fine in Reader.

ok, but no diagnostic features and i got a bit allergic for acrobat 
readers (ever changing) interface

Hans

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Re: including documents with mediaclips in other documents

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 2/15/23 17:55, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 2/15/2023 5:35 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>> On 2/14/23 22:43, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>>> On 2/14/2023 7:41 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>> [...]
>> Now I guess that is way harder than I think.
> 
> quite some are but we need to emulate them and therefore interpret them 
> as one cannot simply copy objects (all kind of potential clashes)

I see.

>> BTW, Acrobat Reader displays these media. I don’t have access to full
>> Acrobat either and these annotations work fine in Reader.
> 
> ok, but no diagnostic features and i got a bit allergic for acrobat 
> readers (ever changing) interface

I prefer PDF.js from Firefox, but they haven’t implemented multimedia yet.

Pablo
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