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* Debian and init freedom (logging freedom?)
@ 2019-12-23 18:39 fungal-net
  2019-12-25  5:43 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: fungal-net @ 2019-12-23 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 66, supervision

While upgrading my antiX-sid (Debian) with s6 and 66 installed today I
got two interesting messages.

This is copy paste from the terminal screen.  If systemd-log is on the
/etc/ files then you have nothing to worry about.  :)
At least they ask whether you allow Lenny to sweep your /etc/ for you.


Package configuration

 ┌────────────────────────────────────────┤ Configuring base-passwd
├────────────────────────────────────────┐
 │
                                    │
 │ update-passwd has found a difference between your system accounts and
the current Debian defaults.  It    │
 │ is advisable to allow update-passwd to change your system; without
those changes some packages might not  │
 │ work correctly.  For more documentation on the Debian account
policies, please see                        │
 │ /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/README.
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ The proposed change is:
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ Remove group "log" (19)
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ If you allow this change, a backup of modified files will be made
with the extension .org, which you can  │
 │ use if necessary to restore the current settings.  If you do not make
this change now, you can make it    │
 │ later with the update-passwd utility.
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ Do you want to remove the group log?
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │                               <Yes>
<No>                                 │
 │
                                    │
 └───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘






 ┌────────────────────────────────────────┤ Configuring base-passwd
├────────────────────────────────────────┐
 │
                                    │
 │ update-passwd has found a difference between your system accounts and
the current Debian defaults.  It    │
 │ is advisable to allow update-passwd to change your system; without
those changes some packages might not  │
 │ work correctly.  For more documentation on the Debian account
policies, please see                        │
 │ /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/README.
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ The proposed change is:
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ Remove user "s6log" (19)
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ If you allow this change, a backup of modified files will be made
with the extension .org, which you can  │
 │ use if necessary to restore the current settings.  If you do not make
this change now, you can make it    │
 │ later with the update-passwd utility.
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │ Do you want to remove the user s6log?
                                    │
 │
                                    │
 │                               <Yes>
<No>                                 │
 │
                                    │
 └────────


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* Re: Debian and init freedom (logging freedom?)
  2019-12-23 18:39 Debian and init freedom (logging freedom?) fungal-net
@ 2019-12-25  5:43 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
  2019-12-25 11:08   ` fungal-net
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard @ 2019-12-25  5:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 66, supervision

fungal-net:

> While upgrading my antiX-sid (Debian) with s6 and 66 installed today
>
… the system enforced Debian policy on you, which you had violated by 
using UIDs less than 100 for your private "log" and "s6log" accounts.  
Debian Policy §9.2.2 reserves UIDs less than 100 to Debian, for global 
assignment.

* 
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#uid-and-gid-classes

Observe in contrast that the nosh toolset employs UIDs in the ordinary 
dynamic range for log accounts.



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* Re: Debian and init freedom (logging freedom?)
  2019-12-25  5:43 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
@ 2019-12-25 11:08   ` fungal-net
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: fungal-net @ 2019-12-25 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: supervision

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard:
> fungal-net:
> 
>> While upgrading my antiX-sid (Debian) with s6 and 66 installed today
>>
> … the system enforced Debian policy on you, which you had violated by
> using UIDs less than 100 for your private "log" and "s6log" accounts. 
> Debian Policy §9.2.2 reserves UIDs less than 100 to Debian, for global
> assignment.
> 
> *
> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#uid-and-gid-classes
> 
> Observe in contrast that the nosh toolset employs UIDs in the ordinary
> dynamic range for log accounts.

I plead guilty, I am a common Debian violator and I deserve to be
sentenced as the Debian house of elders decides.  They should add my
case to their ballot and vote for my sentence.

.... jahoba ..jahoba ... jahobaa ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwFXGPRDu4


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