From: "Laurent Bercot" <ska-supervision@skarnet.org>
To: Supervision <supervision@list.skarnet.org>
Subject: Re: Readiness notification exemplars
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 14:55:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <em1dfb8e5a-f9b2-4f9d-ab78-199078c694a4@elzian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGSetNuLfBwTT_-F=HoDAoDYWoW1qHbfeVqD83BvSpJKpkwv=w@mail.gmail.com>
>I am curious, does anyone on this list know of examples of such daemons? I
>am considering creating and submitting patches for some daemon programs
>that I use that do *not* support this mechanism as yet, and am curious if
>it is as simple as it looks like it should be.
- I'm trying to make it so that all my long-lived programs that provide
a service support this. For instance, s6-log as Casper mentioned, but
also s6-[ipc|tcp]server[d], which are the basic building blocks for
simple service implementation.
- There is a non-negligible amount of existing daemons in the wild that
happen to print a line when they're ready, even though they're not
necessarily aware that printing such a line can be used as readiness
notification. For instance:
* dbus-daemon has the --print-address=fd option that can be used
to notify readiness (since the address of the bus is only known after
the bus socket is ready).
* Xorg has the -displayfd option that can also be used for the
same purpose (since it only knows its display once it is ready)
* Lots of daemons have an option to print a pidfile. If you run
them and give /dev/fd/3 (or whatever your notification-fd is) as a
pidfile, they will trigger the notification mechanism when attempting
to print their pidfile. Be aware, though, that it does not necessarily
mean they're ready; they *should* be, because they should not stamp
their pid once they're certain they're going to provide service, but
they don't have to, because they know their pid as soon as they're
running - and since they're designed badly enough to think a pidfile
is a good thing, it's also very possible that they're printing it too
early. So you have to check with the daemon's source before using the
pidfile option as a readiness check.
It is definitely as simple as it looks, it was designed to be able to
reuse existing daemon behaviours, and I strongly encourage you to submit
patches to spread the use of the mechanism :)
--
Laurent
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-01 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-01 13:23 Brett Neumeier
2020-04-01 13:36 ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-04-01 14:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-01 15:06 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-01 15:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-01 15:59 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-01 16:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-01 17:13 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-04 15:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-04 15:54 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-03 7:41 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-04-04 15:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-04 21:29 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-04 22:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-07 23:03 ` Brett Neumeier
2020-04-08 11:02 ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-09 10:31 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-04-01 14:55 ` Laurent Bercot [this message]
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