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From: "Laurent Bercot" <ska-supervision@skarnet.org>
To: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the syslogd-linux Service Script
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:08:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <em40ed47d7-b5b4-4d61-b9d9-53f67e424d6b@elzian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fa6bc96-3e7a-4622-bcf7-4a7d66d3c6be@www.fastmail.com>


>The s6-ipcserverd docs specifically state that it expects a bound
>and listening SOCK_STREAM socket, and this led me to the `ipc_accept()`
>call that the program makes. Out of curiosity, is there another
>s6-family program that handles SOCK_DGRAM sockets? Otherwise, I'll
>look in to socklog as Laurent suggested.

  There is not, because the UCSPI model - the one that s6-ipcserver
implements - is about handling data *streams*, and forking a child to
handle each separate client (as the venerable inetd does).

  There are workarounds and hacks to handle datagram sequences with a
similar architecture, but it's never perfect: clients have to connect
(which an additional restriction), you lose natural message boundaries,
and you don't have an explicit EOF so the child needs to die on a
timeout - which makes the thing awkward and actually *adds* complexity,
when the whole point of UCSPI is to make every component as simple as
possible.

  When you need to listen to a /dev/log datagram socket, socklog is
definitely the simplest, and correct, approach.

--
  Laurent


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-12 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-08 16:53 Scott Colby
2020-09-08 18:15 ` Colin Booth
2020-09-08 18:43 ` Colin Booth
2020-09-09  8:01   ` Laurent Bercot
2020-09-12  6:42     ` Scott Colby
2020-09-12 10:08       ` Laurent Bercot [this message]
2020-09-12 10:14       ` Laurent Bercot
2020-09-12 17:59         ` Scott Colby

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