* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
@ 2003-06-17 5:04 Akito Fujita
2003-06-17 5:53 ` Warren Toomey
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From: Akito Fujita @ 2003-06-17 5:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi
I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780
and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only.
Is it possible without any modification ?
Does anyone try this ?
Are there more better emulator than SIMH ?
or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ?
Thanks
- Akito
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-17 5:04 [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation Akito Fujita
@ 2003-06-17 5:53 ` Warren Toomey
2003-06-17 6:09 ` Akito Fujita
2003-06-17 17:26 ` Kenneth Stailey
2003-06-17 20:09 ` Andru Luvisi
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Warren Toomey @ 2003-06-17 5:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:04:40PM +0900, Akito Fujita wrote:
> I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
>
> UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780
> and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only.
> Is it possible without any modification ?
No, I don't think you can run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
You need something that really looks like a VAX-11/780.
Warren
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-17 5:53 ` Warren Toomey
@ 2003-06-17 6:09 ` Akito Fujita
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From: Akito Fujita @ 2003-06-17 6:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
From: Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:53:33 +1000
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:04:40PM +0900, Akito Fujita wrote:
> > I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
> >
> > UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780
> > and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only.
> > Is it possible without any modification ?
>
> No, I don't think you can run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
> You need something that really looks like a VAX-11/780.
Also I have looked for more better emulator than SIMH,
but I've never find anything yet.
Does anyone have a good information about it ?
- Akito
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-17 5:04 [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation Akito Fujita
2003-06-17 5:53 ` Warren Toomey
@ 2003-06-17 17:26 ` Kenneth Stailey
2003-06-17 20:09 ` Andru Luvisi
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-06-17 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
--- Akito Fujita <akito_fujita at mvg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
>
> UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780
> and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only.
> Is it possible without any modification ?
VAX-11/780 is a unibus VAX.
Micro VAX III / SIMH VAX is a Qbus VAX.
http://world.std.com/~bdc/projects/vaxen/vax-perf.html
SIMH is "Mayfair III" on that page.
> Does anyone try this ?
> Are there more better emulator than SIMH ?
> or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> - Akito
>
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-17 5:04 [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation Akito Fujita
2003-06-17 5:53 ` Warren Toomey
2003-06-17 17:26 ` Kenneth Stailey
@ 2003-06-17 20:09 ` Andru Luvisi
2003-06-18 2:26 ` Timothy Stark
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From: Andru Luvisi @ 2003-06-17 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Akito Fujita wrote:
[snip]
> Are there more better emulator than SIMH ?
> or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ?
[snip]
I don't know if it is any better since I haven't ever used it, but
supposedly ts10 can emulate a vax.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ts10/
Andru
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-17 20:09 ` Andru Luvisi
@ 2003-06-18 2:26 ` Timothy Stark
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From: Timothy Stark @ 2003-06-18 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
All,
Yes, latest ts10 versions are at
ftp://ftp.firesword7.net/pub/ts10/develop. 11/780 emulation is not
finished yet because I am figuring out how some memory and unibus
configuration programming works. I have working Massbus emulation for
11/780 emulation.
Tim Stark
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From: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org]
On Behalf Of Andru Luvisi
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:09 PM
To: Akito Fujita
Cc: tuhs at tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Akito Fujita wrote:
[snip]
> Are there more better emulator than SIMH ?
> or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ?
[snip]
I don't know if it is any better since I haven't ever used it, but
supposedly ts10 can emulate a vax.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ts10/
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-18 5:28 ` Akito Fujita
@ 2003-06-18 5:54 ` nao
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From: nao @ 2003-06-18 5:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
In message "Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation"
on 03/06/18, Akito Fujita <akito_fujita at mvg.biglobe.ne.jp> writes:
>I want to make sure how different it from BSD.
>That is reason why I want to run UNIX/32V.
>Perhaps, no one have seen UNIX/32V which is running in Japan.
>
>Also we can run old [34]BSD stuff without modification,
>if we have VAX-11/780 emulator.
Some report on UNIX/32V for VAX-11/780 located at the University of
Tokyo appeared in a Japanese journal for computer architecture in
1981. See the following web page for details. CAVEAT: it contains lots
of Japanese characters.
http://www.ipsj.or.jp/members/SIGNotes/Jpn/08/1981/041/article005.html
Naoki Hamada
nao at tom-yam.ro.jp
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
2003-06-17 19:29 zmkm zmkm
@ 2003-06-18 5:28 ` Akito Fujita
2003-06-18 5:54 ` nao
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From: Akito Fujita @ 2003-06-18 5:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
From: "zmkm zmkm" <new_zmkm@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:29:06 +0000
> I don't know if you got my earlier email it was bounced back earlier today
> from TUHS any way v32 doesn't support virtual memory.
Yes, I know it.
I want to make sure how different it from BSD.
That is reason why I want to run UNIX/32V.
Perhaps, no one have seen UNIX/32V which is running in Japan.
Also we can run old [34]BSD stuff without modification,
if we have VAX-11/780 emulator.
- Akito
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* [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
@ 2003-06-17 19:29 zmkm zmkm
2003-06-18 5:28 ` Akito Fujita
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: zmkm zmkm @ 2003-06-17 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi all
what about eVAX ??? , any one tried this ? is it any good ??
Akito
I don't know if you got my earlier email it was bounced back earlier today
from TUHS any way v32 doesn't support virtual memory.
zmkm
>From: Kenneth Stailey <kstailey at yahoo.com>
>To: Akito Fujita <akito_fujita at mvg.biglobe.ne.jp>, tuhs at tuhs.org
>CC: Akito Fujita <akito_fujita at mvg.biglobe.ne.jp>
>Subject: Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation
>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>--- Akito Fujita <akito_fujita at mvg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH.
> >
> > UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780
> > and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only.
> > Is it possible without any modification ?
>
>VAX-11/780 is a unibus VAX.
>Micro VAX III / SIMH VAX is a Qbus VAX.
>
>http://world.std.com/~bdc/projects/vaxen/vax-perf.html
>
>SIMH is "Mayfair III" on that page.
>
> > Does anyone try this ?
> > Are there more better emulator than SIMH ?
> > or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > - Akito
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUHS mailing list
> > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
>
>
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