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From: ron@ronnatalie.com (Ron Natalie)
Subject: [TUHS] V7 Addendem [ really lawyers and AT&T consent decree ]
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:03:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <017001d36f64$1e7f0550$5b7d0ff0$@ronnatalie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171206203057.GA72441@wopr>

T1 wasn't cheap nor ubiquitous.    I ran the networking for the degree granting public colleges in NJ (which on the whole is a fairly metropolitan area) but there were places we couldn't get it.
It was also expensive.   Old school copper T1 required repeaters every quarter mile or so.     Debugging could be fun.   At least our telco (NJ Bell) back then could move the loop back around while I did tests to tell them where the line was failing.

And yeah, I live in one of those backwaters now.   No cable, no fiber optic anything.    I use two DSL lines to get an aggregate 20M down 1.5M up.   That's the best the vesiges of the old GTE telco down here can do.
ATT has fiber in communities down the road but we're too sparse to attract their interest.    Comcast won't even pull in a local drop from the main road.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-07 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-06  0:33 [TUHS] V7 Addendem Warner Losh
2017-12-06  1:07 ` Warren Toomey
2017-12-06 16:11   ` Random832
2017-12-06 16:15     ` Jon Steinhart
2017-12-06 18:39       ` Clem Cole
2017-12-06 18:49         ` [TUHS] V7 Addendem [ really lawyers and AT&T consent decree ] Jon Steinhart
2017-12-06 18:53           ` Warner Losh
2017-12-06 18:58             ` Jon Steinhart
2017-12-06 18:54           ` Clem Cole
2017-12-06 19:20             ` William Pechter
2017-12-07 14:26               ` Ron Natalie
2017-12-06 19:23           ` William Corcoran
2017-12-06 20:30             ` Kurt H Maier
2017-12-06 23:59               ` George Michaelson
2017-12-07 14:03               ` Ron Natalie [this message]
2017-12-07 15:34                 ` William Corcoran
2017-12-07  5:08             ` Jon Steinhart
2017-12-07 15:09               ` Larry McVoy
2017-12-11 18:17           ` Paul Winalski
2017-12-11 18:39             ` Clem Cole
2017-12-12  0:27               ` Steve Johnson
2017-12-12  1:05                 ` [TUHS] V7 Addendem [ really lawyers and AT&T consent decree ] [ and besides it's "Addendum" ] Jon Steinhart
2017-12-12  1:45                   ` [TUHS] MERT? Larry McVoy
2017-12-12  2:09                     ` Jon Steinhart
2017-12-13 17:09                 ` [TUHS] V7 Addendem [ really lawyers and AT&T consent decree ] Jason Stevens
2017-12-13 17:05               ` Jason Stevens
2017-12-11 20:11             ` William Cheswick
2017-12-11 23:26               ` Arthur Krewat
2017-12-11 19:23 Noel Chiappa
2017-12-12 16:04 ` Random832
2017-12-12  1:28 Noel Chiappa
2017-12-12  1:42 ` George Michaelson
2017-12-12  2:04 Noel Chiappa
2017-12-12  2:17 ` George Michaelson
2017-12-12 13:59 Noel Chiappa

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