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* [TUHS] default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files?
@ 2009-08-31 13:52 Jeremy C. Reed
  2009-08-31 15:59 ` Larry McVoy
  2009-09-01  1:59 ` Wesley Parish
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jeremy C. Reed @ 2009-08-31 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


For 4.4BSD files, if no copyright and license is listed for specific 
files, does the standard UCB license apply? Is there any file or statement 
that says the license covers all files which don't have a specific license 
in 4.4BSD-Lite ?

Any RCS commit history for old CSRG code?

I am looking for the authors/history/copyrights for BSD 
share/mk/files.

I see that 4.4BSD-Alpha has:
r--r--r--  3/7    792 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.doc.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   3761 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   1574 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.man.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   4140 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   1244 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk
r--r--r--  3/7   1387 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/sys.mk
but missing the bsd.README

I couldn't find these in the other old 4 and 3BSDs (via the tuhs 
archive).

The share/mk/bsd.README from NetBSD import in 1993 has:

#	@(#)bsd.README	5.1 (Berkeley) 5/11/90

And sys.mk has:

#	@(#)sys.mk	5.11 (Berkeley) 3/13/91

And bsd.doc.mk:

#	@(#)bsd.doc.mk	5.3 (Berkeley) 1/2/91

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* [TUHS] default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files?
  2009-08-31 13:52 [TUHS] default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files? Jeremy C. Reed
@ 2009-08-31 15:59 ` Larry McVoy
  2009-09-01  5:55   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
  2009-09-01  1:59 ` Wesley Parish
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2009-08-31 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw)


CSRG used SCCS and I'm pretty sure the SCCS history is on the disks that
Kirk has.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:52:20AM -0500, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> For 4.4BSD files, if no copyright and license is listed for specific 
> files, does the standard UCB license apply? Is there any file or statement 
> that says the license covers all files which don't have a specific license 
> in 4.4BSD-Lite ?
> 
> Any RCS commit history for old CSRG code?
> 
> I am looking for the authors/history/copyrights for BSD 
> share/mk/files.
> 
> I see that 4.4BSD-Alpha has:
> r--r--r--  3/7    792 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.doc.mk
> r--r--r--  3/7   3761 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk
> r--r--r--  3/7   1574 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.man.mk
> r--r--r--  3/7   4140 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk
> r--r--r--  3/7   1244 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk
> r--r--r--  3/7   1387 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/sys.mk
> but missing the bsd.README
> 
> I couldn't find these in the other old 4 and 3BSDs (via the tuhs 
> archive).
> 
> The share/mk/bsd.README from NetBSD import in 1993 has:
> 
> #	@(#)bsd.README	5.1 (Berkeley) 5/11/90
> 
> And sys.mk has:
> 
> #	@(#)sys.mk	5.11 (Berkeley) 3/13/91
> 
> And bsd.doc.mk:
> 
> #	@(#)bsd.doc.mk	5.3 (Berkeley) 1/2/91
> 
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* [TUHS] default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files?
  2009-08-31 13:52 [TUHS] default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files? Jeremy C. Reed
  2009-08-31 15:59 ` Larry McVoy
@ 2009-09-01  1:59 ` Wesley Parish
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Wesley Parish @ 2009-09-01  1:59 UTC (permalink / raw)


I've got a similar question relating to University Ingres: is it under the old
BSD license?  It doesn't have many copyright notices.  (FWIW, I emailed the
University of California Regents some time ago, asking them to clarify the
issue, but have heard nought back since.)

Wesley Parish

Quoting "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at reedmedia.net>:

> For 4.4BSD files, if no copyright and license is listed for specific 
> files, does the standard UCB license apply? Is there any file or
> statement 
> that says the license covers all files which don't have a specific
> license 
> in 4.4BSD-Lite ?
> 
> Any RCS commit history for old CSRG code?
> 
> I am looking for the authors/history/copyrights for BSD 
> share/mk/files.
> 
> I see that 4.4BSD-Alpha has:
> r--r--r-- 3/7 792 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.doc.mk
> r--r--r-- 3/7 3761 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk
> r--r--r-- 3/7 1574 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.man.mk
> r--r--r-- 3/7 4140 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk
> r--r--r-- 3/7 1244 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk
> r--r--r-- 3/7 1387 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/sys.mk
> but missing the bsd.README
> 
> I couldn't find these in the other old 4 and 3BSDs (via the tuhs 
> archive).
> 
> The share/mk/bsd.README from NetBSD import in 1993 has:
> 
> #	@(#)bsd.README	5.1 (Berkeley) 5/11/90
> 
> And sys.mk has:
> 
> #	@(#)sys.mk	5.11 (Berkeley) 3/13/91
> 
> And bsd.doc.mk:
> 
> #	@(#)bsd.doc.mk	5.3 (Berkeley) 1/2/91
> 
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* [TUHS] default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files?
  2009-08-31 15:59 ` Larry McVoy
@ 2009-09-01  5:55   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2009-09-01  5:55 UTC (permalink / raw)


[resequenced]

On Monday, 31 August 2009 at  8:59:30 -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:52:20AM -0500, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
>>
>> Any RCS commit history for old CSRG code?
>
> CSRG used SCCS and I'm pretty sure the SCCS history is on the disks that
> Kirk has.

Correct.  The log entries are pretty cryptic in comparison with modern
commit logs, though.

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