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From: "Steve Johnson" <scj@yaccman.com>
To: "Larry McVoy" <lm@mcvoy.com>,
	"The Eunuchs Hysterical Society" <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] stories
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:37:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <176ee799252cfa8fc7aa535a02cac1c609ceaf8d@webmail.yaccman.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181128171725.GJ5701@mcvoy.com>

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I heard about Bell Labs from someone who had a summer job a couple of
years earlier.  He said the people were smart and dedicated, and it
was not a place where everybody went home at 5PM (that was an
understatement!).  One of my professors knew someone there and gave
them a call, so an interview was set up.  It was about a 2 hour drive
from my home outside of Philadelphia, so I left three hours before the
interview, ran into some traffic, and then got horribly lost (oh for a
GPS!).  I got to the interview an hour and 15 minutes late and talked
to an HR person who said, in effect, "It's a shame you came in
today.  We hardly hire anyone, and we've already hired everyone we
need for the summer.  But since you're here, we've arranged for your
to have lunch with one of our busy researchers..."   I had a 2-hour
lunch with Tom Crowley, and we really hit it off.  Tom then took me
around and introduced me to people as "This is Steve who will be
working with us this summer...".   Then he took me back to HR, where
they effectively repeated their earlier message.  It was my first,
but far from my last, experience with organizational incoherence.  
But in any case, I got the job.  After the first summer, I was
hooked...

It's probably worth pointing out that Xerox PARC soon became a serious
competitor for computing talent, with almost no overlap with the labs
in the computer area--they were a lisp shop and WYSIWYG text
processing and such.  I had some very spirited discussions with PARC
folks at conferences that were a lot of fun and very stimulating.  In
the compiler area, IBM Yorktown Heights also did work much different
from the Labs, and lead to lively debates at conferences.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry McVoy" <lm@mcvoy.com>
To:"The Eunuchs Hysterical Society" <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:17:25 -0800
Subject:[TUHS] stories

 Ken's story got me thinking about stuff I would still like to learn
 and his comment about "when I got to Bell Labs"... made me wonder
 how did Ken, Dennis, Brian, Joe and the rest of the crew make their
 way to Bell Labs?

 When I was just starting out, Sun was sort of the Bell Labs of the
 time (not that Sun was the same as Bell Labs but it was sort of
 the center of the Unix universe in my mind). So I wanted to go
 there and had to work at it a bit but I got there.

 Was Bell Labs in the 60's like that? If you were a geek was that
 the place to go? I was born in '62 so I don't have any memory of
 how well known the Labs were back then.

 So how was it that so many smart - and somewhat like minded it seems
-
 people end up there?

 --lm



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-06  0:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-28 17:17 Larry McVoy
2018-11-29  7:20 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-12-06  0:37 ` Steve Johnson [this message]
2018-12-06  3:22 [TUHS] Stories Doug McIlroy
2018-12-06 19:26 ` arnold

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