[TUHS] About Sys III status

[TUHS] About Sys III status

[Wesley Parish]

I came across this:
cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/bsdi/930303.ruling.txt

17 U.S.C.   101.  Version 32V source code has now been distributed,
without notice, to literally thousands of licensees.
Consequently, Plaintiff can have no valid copyright on 32V unless
it can fit within one of the statutory or common law escape
provisions.
          The three statutory escape provisions are listed in
section 405(a).  These provisions relieve a copyright owner from
the harsh consequences of noticeless publication if the owner
(i) omitted the notice from a "relatively small number of copies;"
(ii) registers the work within five years of publication, and then
makes a "reasonable effort" to add notices to the noticeless copies
already distributed; or (iii) proves that a third party omitted,
notice in violation of an express agreement in writing 17 U.S.C  
405(a)(1)-(3).
          Plaintiff cannot avail itself of any of these provisions.
Notice was omitted from thousands of copies of 32V; no contractual
agreements require the licensees to affix notice;
Plaintiff failed to copyright 32V until 1992, well over five years
after 32V was published; and Plaintiff has not yet made reasonable
efforts to add notices to the many noticeless publications of 32V.
Consequently, Plaintiff must try to fit within the common-law
doctrine of limited publication.

and I felt like asking a few questions in relation to Sys III - was it 
copyrighted?  When?  And has SCO's publication of said Sys III on its Ancient 
Unix web site created the presumption that SCO has no further interest in Sys 
III?

Wesley Parish



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[TUHS] About Sys III status

[Warren Toomey]

On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:52:33PM +1200, Wesley Parish wrote:
> and I felt like asking a few questions in relation to Sys III - was it 
> copyrighted?  When?  And has SCO's publication of said Sys III on its Ancient 
> Unix web site created the presumption that SCO has no further interest in Sys 
> III?

Well, here is a grep result:

$ zcat sys3.tar.gz | strings | grep -i copyr 
        /* Copyright 1976, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.,
 * Copyright 1975 Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated
copyright
"\033\016O\b#\033\017", /*copyright*/
'co', 0336,     /*copyright*/
PAIR('c','o'), 0336,    /*copyright*/
PAIR('c','o'), 0336,    /*copyright*/
0153,   /*copyright*/
"\001c\bO",      /*copyright*/
"\001c\bO",      /*copyright*/
"\001\0338c\0339",       /*copyright*/
"\001c\bO",      /*copyright*/
"\003(c)",      /*copyright*/
        \(co    \e(co   copyright
* Copyright 1974,
Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1980 Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.

This is approximately the same amount of copyright notices that appear in 32V.
And we should have enough witnesses that SysIII was actually available from
SCO's own website with no authentication required. So that does leave open
the question as to whether anybody still holds copyright on the code.

And you know what, the original copyright statements on SysV have more
UCB copyright notices than AT&T/Bell Labs copyright notices :-)

	Warren

$ zcat tape1.tar.gz | strings | grep -i copyr | uniq -c | sort -rn
  11 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
  11 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   7 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   7 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   6 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   6 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   3 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   3 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 PAIR('c','o'), 0336,	/*copyright*/
   2 PAIR('c','o'), 0336,	/*copyright*/
   2 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 "\001c\bO",	 /*copyright*/
   2 "\001c\bO",	 /*copyright*/
   1 x/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 x/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 t/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 t/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 e/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 e/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 copyrval( nl_file, symbol, ptr, size, memdev)
   1 copyrval( nl_file, symbol, ptr, size, memdev)
   1 copyright
   1 copyright
   1 copyrest (fp1, fp2, place, size)		/* Copy the rest of a file. */
   1 copyrest (fp1, fp2, place, size)		/* Copy the rest of a file. */
   1 copyreader
   1 copyreader
   1 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 Portions of this document were copyrighted
   1 Portions of this document were copyrighted
   1 Portions of this document were copyrighted
   1 Portions of this document were copyrighted
   1 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   1 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   1 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   1 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   1 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   1 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   1 0153,	/*copyright*/
   1 0153,	/*copyright*/
   1 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   1 .\" Portions of this document were copyrighted
   1 .\" Portions of this document were copyrighted
   1 'co', 0336,	/*copyright*/
   1 'co', 0336,	/*copyright*/
   1 "\033\016O\b#\033\017",	/*copyright*/
   1 "\033\016O\b#\033\017",	/*copyright*/
   1 "\003(c)",	/*copyright*/
   1 "\003(c)",	/*copyright*/
   1 "\001c\bO",	 /*copyright*/
   1 "\001c\bO",	 /*copyright*/
   1 "\001\0338c\0339",	 /*copyright*/
   1 "\001\0338c\0339",	 /*copyright*/
   1  * Copyright 1975 Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated
   1  * Copyright 1975 Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated
   1 	retcode = copyrest (fp1, fp2, area, size);
   1 	retcode = copyrest (fp1, fp2, area, size);
   1 	copyrval( system, V_STR, (char *) &v, sizeof v, mem);
   1 	copyrval( system, V_STR, (char *) &v, sizeof v, mem);
   1 	TR("Copyrest: returns %d\n", retcode, EMPTY, EMPTY);
   1 	TR("Copyrest: returns %d\n", retcode, EMPTY, EMPTY);
   1 	TR("Copyrest: fp1=%d fp2=%d place=%d ", fp1, fp2, place);
   1 	TR("Copyrest: fp1=%d fp2=%d place=%d ", fp1, fp2, place);
   1 	/* Copyright 1976, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.,
   1 	/* Copyright 1976, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.,
   1 	  copyrval( system, SWPLO_STR, (char *) &swplo, sizeof swplo, memdev);
   1 	  copyrval( system, SWPLO_STR, (char *) &swplo, sizeof swplo, memdev);
   1 	  copyrval( system, SBRPTE_STR, (char *) &sbrpte, sizeof sbrpte, memdev);
   1 	  copyrval( system, SBRPTE_STR, (char *) &sbrpte, sizeof sbrpte, memdev);
   1 			retcode = copyrest (fp1, fp2, EMPTY, BUFSIZE);
   1 			retcode = copyrest (fp1, fp2, EMPTY, BUFSIZE);
   1 			TR("Copyrest: no space\n", EMPTY, EMPTY, EMPTY);
   1 			TR("Copyrest: no space\n", EMPTY, EMPTY, EMPTY);

[TUHS] About Sys V copyright notices

[Warren Toomey]

Warren did:
> > $ zcat tape1.tar.gz | strings | grep -i copyr | uniq -c | sort -rn

On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:35:53AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
> why did you run "uniq -c | sort" and not "sort | uniq -c" ?

Because it was late. I really should have done

$ zcat tape1.tar.gz | strings | grep -i copyr | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn:

  56 /* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
  20 c/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   6 Copyright \fB\^\s+8\v'.25m'\(co\v'-.25m'\s-8\|\fP1983 Western Electric Company, Incorporated.
   6 "\001c\bO",         /*copyright*/
   4 Portions of this document were copyrighted
   4 PAIR('c','o'), 0336,       /*copyright*/
   2 x/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 t/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 e/* Copyright (c) 1979 Regents of the University of California */
   2 copyright
   2 0153,      /*copyright*/
   2 .\" Portions of this document were copyrighted
   2 'co', 0336,        /*copyright*/
   2 "\033\016O\b#\033\017",    /*copyright*/
   2 "\003(c)", /*copyright*/
   2 "\001\0338c\0339",  /*copyright*/
   2  * Copyright 1975 Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated
   2    /* Copyright 1976, Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.,

There, that's better :-)

	Warren