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* [TUHS] WEBSTER
@ 2004-08-18 20:41 ` Kenneth Stailey
  2004-08-18 22:41   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2004-08-18 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi,

I have a copy of the WEBSTER server and client port to UNIX by

 * David A. Curry
 * Purdue University
 * Engineering Computer Network
 * April, 1986

I see in the doc directory a very TOPS-20-ish docuement webster.hlp which
describes the way to invoke the client:

  @WEBSTER word-to-define

I'm assuming the @ is the TOPS-20 prompt.  It also says you can use

  If you want to look up more than one word, just do

        @WEBSTER<return>

  and you will be prompted with

        Word:

  Type the word, or hit <return> to exit.

But if the @ prompt wasn't enough evidence of TOPS-20 you also get:

  <escape> and "?" are used the same way in Webster as in most programs.
  <escape> tries to complete what you have typed so far, and "?" lists
  those words that match your partial word.

Which is pure TOPS-20 "COMND JSYS".  See this page for what "COMND JSYS" is:

http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/decuslib20-01/01/decus/20-0002/comnd.doc.html

There is some cryptic mentioning about EBCDIC conversion as if the dictionary
data went from ASCII to EBCDIC and back to ASCII causing some degradation.

ebcdictp.ememo talks about the format of the EBCDIC tape (not that I have one)
and errors.ememo says:

   2)   Pronunciation records.

          Three classes of errors occur here.

          During the translation to EBCDIC occurances of the glyphs *( and
     )* in the pronunciation records were treated in the same way as in other
     records, that is encoded as <( and >) (representing left and right
     braces), rather than left as is.  Thus a schwa precceding or following an
     optional phoneme was lost.

I just blew a few minutes looking it over today and ported it to FreeBSD/AMD64
catching a 

        char word[BUFSIZ];
        isnumber(word)

bug and some other minor things.

Does anyone else have this treasure running?  I like it better than dict for
etymologies.



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* [TUHS] WEBSTER
@ 2004-08-18 20:42 Kenneth Stailey
  2004-08-18 20:41 ` Kenneth Stailey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2004-08-18 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi,

I have a copy of the WEBSTER server and client port to UNIX by

 * David A. Curry
 * Purdue University
 * Engineering Computer Network
 * April, 1986

I see in the doc directory a very TOPS-20-ish docuement webster.hlp which
describes the way to invoke the client:

  @WEBSTER word-to-define

I'm assuming the @ is the TOPS-20 prompt.  It also says you can use

  If you want to look up more than one word, just do

        @WEBSTER<return>

  and you will be prompted with

        Word:

  Type the word, or hit <return> to exit.

But if the @ prompt wasn't enough evidence of TOPS-20 you also get:

  <escape> and "?" are used the same way in Webster as in most programs.
  <escape> tries to complete what you have typed so far, and "?" lists
  those words that match your partial word.

Which is pure TOPS-20 "COMND JSYS".  See this page for what "COMND JSYS" is:

http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/decuslib20-01/01/decus/20-0002/comnd.doc.html

There is some cryptic mentioning about EBCDIC conversion as if the dictionary
data went from ASCII to EBCDIC and back to ASCII causing some degradation.

ebcdictp.ememo talks about the format of the EBCDIC tape (not that I have one)
and errors.ememo says:

   2)   Pronunciation records.

          Three classes of errors occur here.

          During the translation to EBCDIC occurances of the glyphs *( and
     )* in the pronunciation records were treated in the same way as in other
     records, that is encoded as <( and >) (representing left and right
     braces), rather than left as is.  Thus a schwa precceding or following an
     optional phoneme was lost.

I just blew a few minutes looking it over today and ported it to FreeBSD/AMD64
catching a 

        char word[BUFSIZ];
        isnumber(word)

bug and some other minor things.

Does anyone else have this treasure running?  I like it better than dict for
etymologies.



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* [TUHS] WEBSTER
  2004-08-18 20:41 ` Kenneth Stailey
@ 2004-08-18 22:41   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
  2004-08-18 23:05     ` Kenneth Stailey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2004-08-18 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wednesday, 18 August 2004 at 13:41:59 -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 August 2004 at 13:42:03 -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
>
> I have a copy of the WEBSTER server and client port to UNIX by
> ...

Is there some subtle difference between these two messages?

Greg
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* [TUHS] WEBSTER
  2004-08-18 22:41   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
@ 2004-08-18 23:05     ` Kenneth Stailey
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2004-08-18 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)



--- Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog at lemis.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 18 August 2004 at 13:41:59 -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 18 August 2004 at 13:42:03 -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote:
> >
> > I have a copy of the WEBSTER server and client port to UNIX by
> > ...
> 
> Is there some subtle difference between these two messages?
> 
> Greg
> --

Yahoo! mail web site is acting up today.  I clicked send and then got a blank
page.  Clicked back and then screwed up by clicking Send again in all the
confusion.  Happy you asked?


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* [TUHS] WEBSTER
@ 2004-08-19  1:30 macbiesz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: macbiesz @ 2004-08-19  1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)


> I have a copy of the WEBSTER server and client port to UNIX by [...]

By the way, you can get the original TOPS-20 source code (dictionary/orig_src.tar), as well as more documentation and history from this site:

http://lost-contact.mit.edu/afs/net/project/afs32/ops/user/jweiss/webster/src/server/

There's also a working Motif interface to the client (the original xwebster used HP widgets):

http://www.scn.rain.com/pub/text/xwebster.motif.tar.Z




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