[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[Larry McVoy]

I'm pinging my contacts to see if I can find a place to host a mirror.
I think that Oregon State Open Source Lab has a fat link to the net
and I used to know Scott K but he's moved on.  If I get anywhere I'll
get back to the list.

BTW, whoever is the listmom, can you change me from digest to regular?
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Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com

[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[Seth Morabito]

On Dec 26, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Larry McVoy wrote:

> I'm pinging my contacts to see if I can find a place to host a mirror.
> I think that Oregon State Open Source Lab has a fat link to the net
> and I used to know Scott K but he's moved on.  If I get anywhere I'll
> get back to the list.
>

What is the total size and estimated monthly bandwidth of the  
archive?  I may be able to host a mirror on my managed server.

-Seth

[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[Jim Capp]

Larry,

     How fat of a pipe do you need?

Jim


On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 06:08:00PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote:
> I'm pinging my contacts to see if I can find a place to host a mirror.
> I think that Oregon State Open Source Lab has a fat link to the net
> and I used to know Scott K but he's moved on.  If I get anywhere I'll
> get back to the list.
> 
> BTW, whoever is the listmom, can you change me from digest to regular?
> -- 
> ---
> Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com
> _______________________________________________
> TUHS mailing list
> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
> 

[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[Larry McVoy]

It's not me, it's all of you.  OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I
recall correctly.  But I don't think TUHS needs that.  There are only
so many of us old farts.  But fast is nice.

I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive.
I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should.

Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about
hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past.  For that matter,
they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that.
Dunno.  I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a
cool group, who knows?

I'm off to put the chickens to bed (yeah, I live in that sort of place.
My net connection is a 100KB/sec but http://bitmover.com/lm/house makes
it worth it, great to live in the country with the bobcats, coyotes,
boar, mountain lions, and still commute to silicon valley).

I'll report back as soon as I know more.  Happy holidays to everyone and
for the record, I'm one of those guys that have learned a huge amount
from the old school unix and apply it to this day.  One of my machines
is named slovax because that was the 11/750 at Wisconsin that held the
BSD source and I had an account.  Still remember the day I read popen()
source and realized you code fork in libc - that was an eye-opener.
I think it still has a lot of value and appreciate Warren and all of
you for caring and passing on the knowledge.

Cheers all,

--lm

On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 10:17:55PM -0500, Jim Capp wrote:
> Larry,
> 
>      How fat of a pipe do you need?
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 06:08:00PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote:
> > I'm pinging my contacts to see if I can find a place to host a mirror.
> > I think that Oregon State Open Source Lab has a fat link to the net
> > and I used to know Scott K but he's moved on.  If I get anywhere I'll
> > get back to the list.
> > 
> > BTW, whoever is the listmom, can you change me from digest to regular?
> > -- 
> > ---
> > Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUHS mailing list
> > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
> > 

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Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com

[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[Wilko Bulte]

Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 ..
> It's not me, it's all of you.  OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I
> recall correctly.  But I don't think TUHS needs that.  There are only
> so many of us old farts.  But fast is nice.
> 
> I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive.
> I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should.
> 
> Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about
> hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past.  For that matter,
> they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that.
> Dunno.  I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a
> cool group, who knows?

Hm..  if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available
to mirror.  Grog, Warner, what do you think?

Wilko

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[Jose R. Valverde]

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As for archive stats, my copy is some 11GB (but I have expanded a number
of subtrees and added a few things). It changes very little if any at all
usually, meaning that monthly traffic for syncing is negligible.

BTW, I'm supposed to be hooked on a 2Gbps pipe, but since we mirror many
huge biological databases (in the order of TB) and they may change by day
significantly, and other sites use us as a hub to mirror their copy of
said dbs in turn, out bandwidth may vary depending on day and time of
day (if you hit us during the mirroring phase of the day it may be quite
slow). We're also on the Grid running large jobs with large data moves...

Oh well. Just give it a try. BTW, on our site you'll also find an 'os'
directory with a large collection of additional UNIX/UNIX-like/other
systems and sources (ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/os/ or
rsync://ftp.es.embnet.org/tuhs/ ).

				j

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:14:42 +0100
Wilko Bulte <wb at freebie.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 ..
> > It's not me, it's all of you.  OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I
> > recall correctly.  But I don't think TUHS needs that.  There are only
> > so many of us old farts.  But fast is nice.
> > 
> > I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive.
> > I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should.
> > 
> > Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about
> > hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past.  For that matter,
> > they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that.
> > Dunno.  I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a
> > cool group, who knows?
> 
> Hm..  if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available
> to mirror.  Grog, Warner, what do you think?
> 
> Wilko
> _______________________________________________
> TUHS mailing list
> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs


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[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Thursday, 27 December 2007 at 11:14:42 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 ..
>> It's not me, it's all of you.  OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I
>> recall correctly.  But I don't think TUHS needs that.  There are only
>> so many of us old farts.  But fast is nice.
>>
>> I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive.
>> I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should.
>>
>> Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about
>> hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past.  For that matter,
>> they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that.
>> Dunno.  I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a
>> cool group, who knows?
>
> Hm..  if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available
> to mirror.  Grog, Warner, what do you think?

(sorry for the slow response) I seem to have lost some messages, so
I'm not longer sure what Larry's suggesting to mirror.  Also it's not
as if I have much to say for the FreeBSD project any more, though I'm
surprised imp didn't say anything.  Isn't this a matter for the
FreeBSD core team and whoever is running ftp.freebsd.org at the
moment?  I certainly don't see any obvious reason why not.

Greg
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[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

[M. Warner Losh]

In message: <20080113034117.GN60332 at dereel.lemis.com>
            "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog at FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Thursday, 27 December 2007 at 11:14:42 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
: > Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39:22PM -0800 ..
: >> It's not me, it's all of you.  OSL has a gigabit link to the net if I
: >> recall correctly.  But I don't think TUHS needs that.  There are only
: >> so many of us old farts.  But fast is nice.
: >>
: >> I do think that there is a _huge_ amount of value in the TUHS archive.
: >> I think that anyone I hire who has not wandered through there, should.
: >>
: >> Anyhoo, I'm pinging the OSL guys, I suspect that they will be cool about
: >> hosting a mirror, they have been way cool in the past.  For that matter,
: >> they'd host www.tuhs.org but I suspect Warren may not be cool with that.
: >> Dunno.  I can arrange introductions, they are a cool group, this is a
: >> cool group, who knows?
: >
: > Hm..  if all else fails we could check if ftp.freebsd.org would be available
: > to mirror.  Grog, Warner, what do you think?
: 
: (sorry for the slow response) I seem to have lost some messages, so
: I'm not longer sure what Larry's suggesting to mirror.  Also it's not
: as if I have much to say for the FreeBSD project any more, though I'm
: surprised imp didn't say anything.  Isn't this a matter for the
: FreeBSD core team and whoever is running ftp.freebsd.org at the
: moment?  I certainly don't see any obvious reason why not.

Before I could say something, it sounded like Larry had the mirrors he
needed.

Warner