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From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
Subject: [TUHS] SYSV & TCP/IP on the VAX...
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:20:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090527182007.GE30091@bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905271739.n4RHdJOf019727@cuzuco.com>

I can verify that the lachman stack came from convergent.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:39:19PM -0400, Brian S Walden wrote:
> I seem to remember that for System V TCP/IP that you needed
> STREAMS first, so that was SVR3. It may have been back potred
> but I don't know. And after that, then you had a choice of
> Wollongong or Lachman implementations. Bell Labs had their own as well,
> but I believe that was only available internally. Amdahl UTS used
> Lachman (which I kind of remember might have been Convergent's code),
> but at Indian Hill it was removed and the home grown one put in.
> I don't know who did the kernel code, but the user land utilities
> were BSD ports done by Ralph Knag in Murray Hill. This was an
> interesting setup as it was System/370 hardware so it had a 
> channel to ethernet device from Spartacus, probably a K200 since
> there was a "k200" command to fiddle with it. I largely ignored
> TCP/IP initially as on the first UTS release, just telneting out of it
> used a ton of system CPU, something would loop in the kernel instead of
> going to sleep. Besides we had Datakit for interactive connectivity,
> and NSC HyperChannel for intra-datacenter file transfer
> (which I remember being something like 50mbs in 1987)
> 
> For the original SVR4, the official porting base was the 3b2 and that
> group from Summit (which was later spun off as Unix Systems Laboraties
> (USL)) used Lachman as well for it's TCP/IP.
> 
> > I was wondering if anyone had access to any SYSV for the VAX and could
> > say what levels support TCP/IP?
> > 
> > I put in a request at http://www.novell.com/licensing/ntap/legal.html
> > to see if they are even entertaining the sale of SYSV licenses... But
> > I kind of figure they don't have the actual material itself....
> > 
> > I know A/UX a SYSVr2.2 had TCP/IP but I don't know if it was in the
> > AT&T base, or if it was something that UniSoft had added...
> > 
> > Anyways thanks for any/all responses....
> > 
> > Oh and FWIW I've gotten a super minimal SYSIII thing booting on SIMH!
> > I've just have to work out some more disk formatting/restoring as the
> > root partition sizes don't agree between 32v & SYSIII....
> > 
> > Jason
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Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com



  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27 17:39 Brian S Walden
2009-05-27 18:20 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-26 23:45 Jason Stevens
2009-05-26 23:48 ` Larry McVoy
2009-05-26 23:57   ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-26 23:59     ` Larry McVoy
2009-05-27  0:10       ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-27  3:06         ` John Cowan
2009-05-27  3:35           ` Jason Stevens
2009-05-27  4:05             ` M. Warner Losh
2009-05-27  0:32       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2009-05-27  1:06       ` Corey Lindsly
2009-05-27  4:36         ` Gregg C Levine
2009-05-27  0:25   ` Lyndon Nerenberg

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