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From: cowan@mercury.ccil.org (John Cowan)
Subject: [TUHS] etymology of cron
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 13:00:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160103180057.GA1602@mercury.ccil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2A40A77D-B3B0-4A27-98ED-3BBBB4F50ED8@ronnatalie.com>

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Ronald Natalie scripsit:

> (by the way history is full of these things like news, golf, posh,
> etc… are all alleged to be acronyms though there is no historical
> justification for any of this).

Indeed, any word older than about 1890 is not an acronym, with a few
Hebrew and Arabic exceptions like Tanakh, Rambam, _abjad_.  POTUS and
SCOTUS were codewords devised in 1879 and meant to be used on the wire
only, but occasionally leaked into print.  Initialisms like SPQR are
much older, with English-language examples like O.K. and N.G. dating to
the 1840s.  It's not clear when A.W.O.L. switched from an initialism to
an acronym proper, probably WWI; the same ambiguity applies to O.U.D.S.

The word _acronym_ itself is first recorded in 1940 (borrowed from
German), and they certainly had taken off by that time.  The oldest ones
consistently written as an ordinary word (no capitals, no periods) are
probably _radar_ and _snafu_ (both 1941), though some older ones lose
their caps at a later date, like the now-obscure MUSA (multiple unit
steerable antenna) and W/Op (wireless operator), later _musa_ and _wop_.
The later _loran_, _fubar_, _jato_ also fall into this category.

"Rip track" (1892) may be the oldest retronym in English; it's a stretch
of railroad track used to repair rolling stock, later reinterpreted as
"Repair In Place".

-- 
John Cowan          http://www.ccil.org/~cowan        cowan at ccil.org
You escaped them by the will-death and the Way of the Black Wheel.
I could not.  --Great-Souled Sam


  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-03 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.1.1451005554.3365.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2015-12-25 18:41 ` David
2015-12-25 20:46   ` Marc Rochkind
2015-12-25 22:22   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-01-02 19:56     ` Marc Rochkind
2016-01-02 21:06       ` Clem Cole
2016-01-02 22:22       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-01-03  1:26         ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-03 10:30           ` Jacob Goense
2016-01-03 15:32             ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-03 18:00               ` John Cowan [this message]
2016-01-03 12:10           ` Jacob Goense
2016-01-03 15:22             ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-13 19:48               ` Jeremy C. Reed
2016-01-13 20:02                 ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-04  2:26           ` Kurt H Maier
2016-01-13 20:31 Noel Chiappa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-01-03 14:26 Noel Chiappa
2016-01-02 23:14 Norman Wilson
2016-01-02 23:18 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23 17:19 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23 19:04 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 19:41 ` SZIGETI Szabolcs
     [not found] <mailman.20.1450886678.3292.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2015-12-23 17:09 ` Johnny Billquist
2015-12-23 14:38 Noel Chiappa
2015-12-23 18:58 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 13:36 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23 13:53 ` Clem Cole
2015-12-24 15:01   ` Clem Cole
2015-12-24 15:17     ` John Cowan
2015-12-24 23:05       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-25  0:52         ` scj
2015-12-25  1:05           ` Larry McVoy
2015-12-25  2:07             ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-25  2:28               ` Dave Horsfall
2015-12-25 16:21           ` Marc Rochkind
2015-12-23 16:04 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 23:49 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23 13:30 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23  1:44 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23  2:07 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-12-23  2:19   ` Milo Velimirovic
2015-12-23  2:27     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-12-23  2:36       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23  4:53 ` Larry McVoy
2015-12-23 13:45   ` Clem Cole
2015-12-23  0:27 Doug McIlroy
2015-12-23  0:40 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23  1:11   ` John Cowan
2015-12-23  1:59     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23  2:01       ` David Ryskalczyk
2015-12-23  2:14         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23  2:32           ` jason-tuhs
2015-12-23  2:44             ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-12-23  2:59             ` John Cowan
2015-12-23  4:05               ` Random832
2015-12-23  4:27                 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23  0:46 ` Warren Toomey
2015-12-23  6:47 ` Dave Horsfall

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