From: grog@lemis.com (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
Subject: [TUHS] etymology of cron
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:49:39 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151223234939.GL14449@eureka.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151223160436.GB6677@mercury.ccil.org> <20151223133603.B1BFE440AE@lignose.oclsc.org>
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 11:04:36 -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> Norman Wilson scripsit:
>
>> But I'd be satisfied if we could somehow stamp out the use of spurious
>> references to support spurious claims.
It occurs to me that there's a difference between stamping out the use
and stamping out the reference. True story (at some level of truth):
In the late 18th century a member of a European exploratory mission
in Australia sees a strange animal jumping around. He turns to the
aboriginal guard assigned to him and says "What's that animal?".
Guard answers: "kangaroo" ("I don't understand what you're saying").
I've always taken this one to be a joke, but the Oxford English
Dictionary picks it up and says:
The common assertion that it really means 'I don't understand'
(the supposed reply of the local to his questioner) seems to be of
recent origin and lacks confirmation. (See Morris Austral English
s.v.)
And maybe this is the correct way to handle those references.
Mention them and observe that they lack any substantiation.
> I suppose you could get the original author(s) to print a retraction.
I've been trying to find Phil Diacono, of whom you wouldn't expect
many falso positives, but in fact there are two or three in Melbourne
alone, none of whom seem to be the right one.
In the meantime, help has come from an unlikely direction. As far as
I can tell, it's nobody on this list, but there's no account behind
the commit, just the IP address 2601:647:4001:bc00:c48d:fc08:b94c:dec2
It refers to an article by Kah Seng Tay at
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-etymology-of-cron , which appears
undated (date "Wed"), but which goes into more detail and includes a
copy of a message from Brian with essentially the same content as the
one he sent to Doug. I've updated the page to note lack of
substatiation in the alternative references.
We're not done yet. Tedickey has once again tagged the entry with
WP:RS. So a published document would still be a good idea.
wkt: is it time for an informal "Proceedings of TUHS"?
Greg
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2015-12-23 13:36 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23 13:53 ` Clem Cole
2015-12-24 15:01 ` Clem Cole
2015-12-24 15:17 ` John Cowan
2015-12-24 23:05 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-25 0:52 ` scj
2015-12-25 1:05 ` Larry McVoy
2015-12-25 2:07 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-25 2:28 ` Dave Horsfall
2015-12-25 16:21 ` Marc Rochkind
2015-12-23 16:04 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 23:49 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
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2016-01-13 20:31 Noel Chiappa
2016-01-03 14:26 Noel Chiappa
2016-01-02 23:14 Norman Wilson
2016-01-02 23:18 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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2015-12-25 18:41 ` David
2015-12-25 20:46 ` Marc Rochkind
2015-12-25 22:22 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-01-02 19:56 ` Marc Rochkind
2016-01-02 21:06 ` Clem Cole
2016-01-02 22:22 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-01-03 1:26 ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-03 10:30 ` Jacob Goense
2016-01-03 15:32 ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-03 18:00 ` John Cowan
2016-01-03 12:10 ` Jacob Goense
2016-01-03 15:22 ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-13 19:48 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2016-01-13 20:02 ` Ronald Natalie
2016-01-04 2:26 ` Kurt H Maier
2015-12-23 17:19 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23 19:04 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 19:41 ` SZIGETI Szabolcs
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2015-12-23 17:09 ` Johnny Billquist
2015-12-23 14:38 Noel Chiappa
2015-12-23 18:58 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 13:30 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23 1:44 Norman Wilson
2015-12-23 2:07 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-12-23 2:19 ` Milo Velimirovic
2015-12-23 2:27 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-12-23 2:36 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23 4:53 ` Larry McVoy
2015-12-23 13:45 ` Clem Cole
2015-12-23 0:27 Doug McIlroy
2015-12-23 0:40 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23 1:11 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 1:59 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23 2:01 ` David Ryskalczyk
2015-12-23 2:14 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-12-23 2:32 ` jason-tuhs
2015-12-23 2:44 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2015-12-23 2:59 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 4:05 ` Random832
2015-12-23 4:27 ` John Cowan
2015-12-23 0:46 ` Warren Toomey
2015-12-23 6:47 ` Dave Horsfall
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