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From: Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>
To: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>,
	Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] /bin vs /sbin
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:27:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200722022754.GC90608@wopr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W7J3GfPSZ2fduVZj7NfwbTgmE049XcG1AU_z-eW=5D4cQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:44:31PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
>
> When I first came on the scene, there was a convention that I thought
> worked well: the "dataless" node. I have no idea why it was called that; I
> suppose because most interesting data was on a centrally managed file
> server. Anyway, this was under SunOS 4: the idea was that each node had a
> small disk; enough to hold / and swap, but mounted /usr, /usr/local and  
> user directories from a file server. So commonly used stuff (/bin/csh, ls,
> etc etc) all came from a local disk, while everything else was shared.
> Disks in workstations were small and basically turn-key so that we didn't
> back them up: if one crashed, oh well: throw a new one in it and reimage /.
> Swap was transient anyway. A variation was to have an owning-user's home   
> directory on the node if the local disk was big enough. Sometimes there'd  
> be a /scratch partition for bulk storage that persisted across reboots
> (/tmp came from tmpfs and was a swap-backed RAM disk). We'd back up local  
> home dirs and maybe the scratch directories.
>
> In our network, we used `amd` and NIS (YP!) to get access to everyone's
> home dir on every node.
>
> I rather liked the overall setup; it was nice. It became a deprecated
> configuration on the move to Solaris 2.x: a workstation was either diskfull
> or diskless. The idea of a compromise between the two extremes went away.  
>
>         - Dan C.
        
This is how we run our clusters, but instead of NFS-mounting the system
directories, it fetches a cpio archive and unpacks it into a RAM disk, 
then switches root to that.  Any local disk is mounted as scratch space,
home directories come from an NFS server, and the main working
filesystem is a high-performance distributed filesystem.  It works
exceptionally well at the cost of whatever RAM is used to store the root
filesystem -- these days, negligible.  AFS is available but not much
engaged by our users.  Everything boots over PXE and entirely changing
the purpose and loadout of a computer is one or two commands away.  It's
very pleasant.
       
khm


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-22  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21 17:55 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-07-21 18:15 ` Warner Losh
2020-07-21 22:42   ` David Arnold
2020-07-22  3:33     ` Warner Losh
2020-07-21 18:22 ` arnold
2020-07-21 18:33   ` Warner Losh
2020-07-21 18:43     ` Larry McVoy
2020-07-22  1:16     ` tytso
2020-07-22  3:27       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-07-22  3:35         ` Warner Losh
2021-01-27  5:56         ` Greg A. Woods
2021-01-27 19:06           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-01-27 22:22             ` Warner Losh
2021-01-27 22:35             ` Greg A. Woods
2021-01-28  5:24               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-07-22  1:44     ` Dan Cross
2020-07-22  2:17       ` Jon Forrest
2020-07-22  2:20         ` Adam Thornton
2020-07-22 13:30           ` Clem Cole
2020-07-22 13:43             ` Richard Salz
2020-07-22  2:27       ` Kurt H Maier [this message]
2020-07-21 19:24   ` Clem Cole
2020-07-22 13:39     ` Clem Cole
2021-01-29 23:50   ` Chris Hanson

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