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From: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@robohack.ca>
To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] /bin vs /sbin
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 14:35:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1l4tPi-0036xBC@more.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64f487fb-6fed-e741-4e7b-daed1f646e37@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>

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At Wed, 27 Jan 2021 12:06:26 -0700, Grant Taylor via TUHS <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [TUHS] /bin vs /sbin
>
> I've added central... to my hosts file, so hopefully you can email me
> directly if you want to.

Thanks!  (but I still need to pester my service provider for rDNS!)

> > On the other hand "SunOS" the name of the base system OS
> > (i.e. kernel and userland).
>
> Please elaborate.  Including using the same terms for both names.  How
> does "userland" compare to "base system" and / or "user interface"?
>
> I'm also curious what differentiates between SunOS and a minimal
> install of Solaris.

Sorry, I should have been a tiny bit more specific:  the "user
interface" here refers to a Graphical UI.  Unix of course didn't start
out with a GUI of any kind, and workstation vendors like Sun and many
others at the time made a big deal out of how they were offering a
better user interface for their systems.

I separate "kernel" and "userland" (here meaning all the command-line
programs, etc.) only because that's become a more common way to define
the "base OS" in unixy, i.e. linuxy, circles.

This distinction between the traditional Unix layer and the GUI is quite
important in the history of SunOS, since there have been a number of
different offerings from Sun for their GUI (Sun Windowing System,
SunView, NeWS, SunWindows); and also in how Sun promoted their various
GUI offerings as the solutions for wider use.

Even with the advent of a common choice of The X Window System as the
basis for most workstation vendor's GUIs, there were still battles over
which toolkit and window manager and "look and feel" would prevail
(Athena vs. Motif vs. OpenLook), with Sun even evolving their offerings
(SunWindows, OpenLook) over time.

--
					Greg A. Woods <gwoods@acm.org>

Kelowna, BC     +1 250 762-7675           RoboHack <woods@robohack.ca>
Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com>     Avoncote Farms <woods@avoncote.ca>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21 17:55 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-07-21 18:15 ` Warner Losh
2020-07-21 22:42   ` David Arnold
2020-07-22  3:33     ` Warner Losh
2020-07-21 18:22 ` arnold
2020-07-21 18:33   ` Warner Losh
2020-07-21 18:43     ` Larry McVoy
2020-07-22  1:16     ` tytso
2020-07-22  3:27       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-07-22  3:35         ` Warner Losh
2021-01-27  5:56         ` Greg A. Woods
2021-01-27 19:06           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2021-01-27 22:22             ` Warner Losh
2021-01-27 22:35             ` Greg A. Woods [this message]
2021-01-28  5:24               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-07-22  1:44     ` Dan Cross
2020-07-22  2:17       ` Jon Forrest
2020-07-22  2:20         ` Adam Thornton
2020-07-22 13:30           ` Clem Cole
2020-07-22 13:43             ` Richard Salz
2020-07-22  2:27       ` Kurt H Maier
2020-07-21 19:24   ` Clem Cole
2020-07-22 13:39     ` Clem Cole
2021-01-29 23:50   ` Chris Hanson

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